Getting Scooter Licensed in Minnesota By vintner (Read 1,234 times)

[vintner]

Hi, newbie here.
Name is Don, or vintner (winemaker)
I have a YY250T.

I have finally received my paperwork from MX Motorsports. So I head off to the DVS to get the scooter registered.

They tell me 'No', there is not the right statement on the Certificate of Origin. They are telling me I have to take the scoot to St. Paul to the DMV headquarters to have it inspected to see if it can be registered, to see if it meets safety requirements.

This can not be the first YY250T or MC-54-250 to try to get registered, so why is this an issue? Did I go to the wrong location that are reading the rules differently?

Someone in MN help me, where did you get your scooter licensed?

A week and a half in the garage and I still can't get it on the streets (or get my car in the garage, but that is another problem). Help me out.

[bobf]

In Colorado I was able to have the local police come to my garage and inspect the scoot. I have a MC 54 250, YY250T. The police person filled out a form, asked questions about it. I showed them the tags mounted under the seat, and pointed out the stamped into the frame VIN. They called in to somewhere for a check and it came back as OK. Took this form and the paper work to our local DMV and the machine was recorded and I got a license and registration form. So I was on the road at that time.

Now living in Arizona. I took all the Colorado paper work to the local DMV and was told they could not register it to Arizona as the VIN did not come up on the search. I called the Colorado local DMV and they replied that it definitely was on the VIN list. I said that Arizona said it did not show on the VIN list. The local Colorado said it was on a special list, not the regular VIN list. I was given the number of the Colorado State DMV headquarters so I could escalate that situation. Ready to do that but then went into some serious health problems and have not escalated yet. Will likely do that at a later date.

Arizona local DMV has said that they could have the highway patrol do the investigation for me and then they could register it for me. That is done here where I live, at the local DMV office area. I may end up doing it this way.

I wonder if Colorado registers all motor cycles and scooters to the special list rather than to the normal VIN list that is available to everyone. I am still riding on my now questionable Colorado plates in Arizona. I understand that an out of state license is valid in Arizona until you have lived here 7 months. Then it must be registered here. I guess I have about 3 months to go before the problems really begin. Maybe by then I will have the problems corrected.

Good luck to you and success with your quest. Start by giving your local police a call or maybe the nearest highway patrol station.
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[Bashan]

Many states try to make registering scooters very problematic, it's a discrimination thing. The first is they "can't find the VIN", that's just a dodge. Here is a VIN ID service that will show you exactly where your scooter is made, Sprocket also has a great VIN ID list that I can't find right now. That should be able to help you show them the bike is for real. Second, they try to say there's not a security strip in the MCO document. I think that;s a load because here in "Bama" they hardly look at it. The guy we had that had an issue with this just kept resubmitting unil the DMV gave up. Third, they can make an issue out of the poluution devices, As long as the stickers are on the inside of the bucket they can't say much, theoretically. Good luck, maybe some other members from your area that are on th forum can help out. ZRich

[bobf]

Being able to decode your own VIN is good. But it does not help the efforts to get title and registration in the various states.

Scooter and Motor Cycle VIN's should be embedded in the national data base so that we can just dial in and prove our registration or title. For some reason Colorado has access to my VIN but Arizona does not so I must go through the state inspections and title search prior to getting my new Arizona title for me or my new Arizona plates.

I have tried several of those VIN report groups that say free VIN search. None ever brought up my VIN and description of my scoot, registered as a motorcycle in Colorado.

When I get time I will go through the Arizona inspections and see if Arizona will put my VIN on a list accessible to others. Maybe as you described, just pushing and pushing will be the only way to get something done. I had no problems in Colorado getting things done but now the information is somehow not available to Arizona.
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[vintner]

Update-Went to a different DMV office.
'No problem' she told me. She filled out all the paperwork.
Now all we need is...oops, you don't have the engine number, we need that.
Whew, that I can get (once I find it) and get that to her.
At least I am not having to truck it 20 miles to have someone inspect it.

I should have the legal documents to drive it tomorrow, once I fix my mistake from yesterday, but that is another story for another thread.

Thanks for the suggestions on getting the scoot licensed.

I appreciate all the info on this forum.
My next search will be on what I did that the scoot won't even turn over now. Something got unplugged.

[vintner]

Yeah! I have my plates!
I found the reason the scoot wouldn't start. There is a fuse block near the battery with 4 fuses. I had pulled each out, checked things over and replaced them. The terminals in the fuse block were not properly seated and two of them terminals were pushed in so the fuse didn't make contact. I was able to pull out the block, push the fuse contact terminals in place and it started right up.

Saturday, when the weather is warmer and it isn't raining, I am taking the scoot to a nearby parking lot to just get some back and forth runs to learn the handling before I get onto the traffic.

And on a side note (referencing my sig line) after a couple hours working on the scoot last night, I put a homemade pizza on the big green egg last. That was some good eating.

[Alleyoop]

Fantastic!! Good to hear everything worked out fine.
Ride Safe
Alleyoop

[Jon C]

Hi Don,

I'm in New Brighton. Get a hold of me sometime if you want to ride. Stillwater is always a nice ride, and places to grab a beer (or wine).

Jon

[vintner]

Thanks.

I'll contact you sometime and maybe the DW can meet us some where for dinner/drinks or just stories.