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Post by Gti on Feb 6, 2013 12:13:19 GMT -6
I am so confused as to what size to get and how to size the one I have. How do I know what size I have.
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Post by buford1488 on Feb 6, 2013 12:51:10 GMT -6
you got too give some more info....what carb-how big-what motor...ect-ect...stock? may have a # on the jet. main or pilot?
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 6, 2013 13:15:43 GMT -6
Gti, I believe he has a 30mm carb on it, Gti check the Jets they may have the size scribed on them some have the numbers on top by the slot some on the side. If no numbers are visible then what some poeple do is get MINI drill bits to determine the size of the jets. If NOT what i would suggest for your build is get a #35, #38 and #40 Pilot Jet that should be more than enough for that motor. Alleyoop
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Post by Gti on Feb 6, 2013 15:48:14 GMT -6
I looked at the jet there isn't any writing on it at all, I just ran a piece of welding MIG welding wire through it and if memory serves me correct it is .030 or .035 and the wire passed through and still had wiggle around inside.
As of right now here is what I have done to the engine.
P157QMJ engine 63mm bore 180cc +4mm crank with a shaved piston should be a true 200cc or slightly larger 63mm Head high torque starter high torque starter clutch 30mm carb NCY variator with lightened drive face NCY blue manifold NCY Direct fire coil NCY No rev CDI
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 6, 2013 16:16:03 GMT -6
Well I do not believe the PILOT JET is a #30 that you will find on 50cc carbs which are 18-20mms those carbs usually come with a Pilot jets 30-32. On the 150s 24mm carbs they are usually #35, so on the 30mm carbs they would in my believe have to be bigger. So like I said get a #35,#38 and #40 Pilot Jet that should be more than enough for that motor. If you have the original 24mm carb I would take the PILOT JET out of that one and stick it in the 30mm carb and try it. My motor has a 62mm and a +2 crank bringing it to 182ccs and I am using the 24mm carb it had on there. Just upjetted the carb with a #38 Pilot Jet and a 122.5 Main jet A #125 main jet was to much fuel and I have plenty of adjustment in either direction to richen or lean it out. In the Summer I lean it out 1 full turn and in the Winter time I richen it 1 full turn for the temp changes. Runs like a RAPED APE, starts on a dime ;D . Alleyoop
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Post by Gti on Feb 6, 2013 20:03:03 GMT -6
The jet I took out and measured is the one in the center of the float bowl. Which are the pilot jets? Is that the one they call the slow jet?
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 6, 2013 20:47:50 GMT -6
Here is a picture of what is under the CARB BOWL. The Green Arrow points to the PILOT JET The Red Arrow points to the MAIN JET You are concerned with the PILOT JET (Green Arrow) It is lower than the MAIN JET .
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Post by Gti on Feb 6, 2013 21:06:39 GMT -6
Ok what I pulled was the main jet. Where can I find a few of those pilot jets? Walter has some of the main jets but I can not find any pilot/idle jets for the CVK?
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 8, 2013 21:02:12 GMT -6
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Post by jct842 on Feb 8, 2013 23:58:07 GMT -6
Some where around is a jet size chart. Most jets are sized to correspond in mm. What I did for my 150 was to get a oraface drill set. Actually I have now 3 sets. (you have to use a pin vice and do it by finger pressure, and no electric drill) I knew I had to go bigger so after finding a drill that was the same size I drilled it out bigger. I went too far, so instead of having to wait for a new jet to come in the mail I soldered it shut and re-drilled smaller. That was probably 4 years ago and I have forgotten what size I ended up with, but it is still just fine today.
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 9, 2013 0:43:10 GMT -6
Bit Size..Inches....Millimeters..Jet Size #80.......0.0135.....0.3429.......34.29 #79.......0.0145.....0.3683.......36.83 1/64".....0.0156.....0.3969.......39.69 #78.......0.016.......0.4064.......40.64 #77.......0.018.......0.4572.......45.72 Alleyoop
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Post by Gti on Feb 9, 2013 8:42:12 GMT -6
Thanks Alley, I had looked around for those jets and got frustrated and found a deal on a OKO Flatside. I am going to be throwing it on this afternoon. My biggest concern is messing with the throttle cable. Hopefully I will have this thing running today.
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 9, 2013 14:13:45 GMT -6
OH BOY, you went with a FLATSIDE, good luck Bro those are fincky carbs to adjust right. Reason is that any little movement of the throttle pulls on the cylinder and raises or lowers the needle. Would have been much easier to put a jet. Alleyoop
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Post by Gti on Feb 9, 2013 18:52:55 GMT -6
this is my last ditch effort to go for the a carb if this doesn't wok the project is going to be over and I am gong to settle either on a Ruckus or and Ice Bear. The carb came with a #138 and I downsized to a #122. I have to wait until Tuesday to get the cable in but once that is in I will try it and see what I can do.
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 9, 2013 18:59:23 GMT -6
GTI, I gave you the LINK where to get the #35,#38 and #40 Pilot jets?? The Flatside Carbs are a different animal all together but maybe you will get lucky.
WHAT SIZE OKO FLATSIZE did you get. Alleyoop
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