Oil Co. wars at Daytona By clonedrone (Read 733 times)

[clonedrone]

Marketing cracks me up.
There aint no penzoil in the #22 Penske Ford.
Then have to admit been guilty of it myself.

Also looks like my Two Piece Loli Pops have kept stretch to a minimum. LOL!

[Bashan]

I don't follow racing like I used to. At one point I lived eight miles from the Talladega Super Speedway and was into it big time. I'm not sure what you're referring to. The 22 car has Pennzoil all over it. What happened, did they have a little scuffle over some coins? A Ford Fusion....really? I mean, I'd love to have one of the hybrids but a 200 MPH race car? That's not what comes to mind.  I know there isn't a Fusion under there but come on, let's be realistic, just a little bit.

[jct842]

I did watch some of the race tonight, but have little interest in nascar any more. i lost interest a few years ago when the nascar announcer let it be known that the leader of the "race" was going to let a rookie take over the lead for a lap as a courtesy or some such dribble. more than likely for either blocking an opponent or wrecking him. That is not racing.

I much prefer the local short track black top racing where racing is still racing and relatively fair compared to nascars big money buys all policy and the million $ team racing.

[clonedrone]

No falling out, nothing wrong with Penzoil in a passenger car, they just do not mfg. a Racing oil.
This is easy guy's, there are only Three Oil Co's that Mfg, True Racing Oil.

There is no Motorex in the orange Bikes or Athena Pistons.
We used to dump out the Motorex and refill with Rotella before leaving to the venue back before Rotella removed a large amount of Zinc, Sulphur and Phosphorus.
Race Cars/Bikes/Motorsports doesn't run on Fuel, Oil or Hot Rod parts it runs on $$$$$$$$

[cyborg]

to be honest i don't know why they have the badges on the car,,,all the cars couldn't be more remote from a passenger car,,they all run ford pattern rear ends (or close to all) with the currie 9 inch,,,they were faster in the seventies,,,when they had vin #'s,,, petty went over 200mph regularly on daytonas back straight,,,but the days of gigantic engines are a thing of the past,,,when corporates got ahold of the game it was ruined

[clonedrone]

Feb 24, 2014 13:39:18 GMT -6 cyborg said:

to be honest i don't know why they have the badges on the car,,,all the cars couldn't be more remote from a passenger car,,they all run ford pattern rear ends (or close to all) with the currie 9 inch,,,they were faster in the seventies,,,when they had vin #'s,,, petty went over 200mph regularly on daytonas back straight,,,but the days of gigantic engines are a thing of the past,,,when corporates got ahold of the game it was ruined

Lets not forget that the 358ci Small Blocks of today make mucho more HP than the Big Blocks of yesteryear. More reliable also.
Much safer, a bunch of legends are dead because of going 200+ in the cars of yesteryear.
Racing was much more fun when Tires were skinny, Drivers were Fat and Steering wheels were Big.

[jct842]

20 25 years ago I used to go every sat night to a short quarter to watch winston cup. And quite often travel to different black top tracks in wisc. That was racing and no one quit racing for a lap to let your favorite blocker run first! Then there was a engine claim rule on most to keep $ in line. And then there was artco with lots faster cars. And any one that saw duck trickle race saw what real racing was all about.

Nascar is normally like watching a freight train go around at 200 and wait for the crash.

[cyborg]

The original hemi 426 test bed engine made over 2300 hp on gas ,,astounding,,it didn't last long,,,,,petty was blasting around daytona in a new car,,making good numbers then they got it into final livery and ran it again and it was slower???same car same gas same driver,,,what gives??,,,it was the decals,,,,they clearcoated the car and it was back to being fast again,,,i liked it then,,,to much of a business now ,,

[clonedrone]

Feb 24, 2014 14:31:18 GMT -6 cyborg said:

The original hemi 426 test bed engine made over 2300 hp on gas ,,astounding,,it didn't last long,,,,,petty was blasting around daytona in a new car,,making good numbers then they got it into final livery and ran it again and it was slower???same car same gas same driver,,,what gives??,,,it was the decals,,,,they clearcoated the car and it was back to being fast again,,,i liked it then,,,to much of a business now ,,

Wow! One of the finest urban legends I have ever heard.
All iron, Normally Aspirated, on Gas making 2,300 hp? lmao!
What may you think I do for a living?
Hey OOP! give this guy a Pos/20 on my location.

[cyborg]

it was an article i read on the internet about 6 months ago,,,let me see if i can pull it up and post it here,,,,i personally thought those old dinosaurs ran out of steam at about 7-800 myself,,,but i may be wrong

[clonedrone]

Feb 24, 2014 20:25:11 GMT -6 cyborg said:

it was an article i read on the internet about 6 months ago,,,let me see if i can pull it up and post it here,,,,i personally thought those old dinosaurs ran out of steam at about 7-800 myself,,,but i may be wrong

I'll help ya out busting this myth.
actually going to be funny if I make it through this without being called a Bull Snitter.
I have been involved in high end two and four wheel motorsports the better part of my life.
I currently sell and draw Ti Lollipops for a living, there are pret much only two Mfg's in the country that Mfg High end Ti, one in the West and here one in the East.
I already know back in the 60's or early 70's making 5.399 hp per CI in a Iron Normally Aspirated motor on gas never happened, But I thought I'd check round the hood on this.
I live in the north end of Randleman, out the back window down the hill and over the creek is Camp Victory Junction, Petty's.
The Petty Museum is in the middle of a move from Randleman to it original location in Level Cross (Home of the Petty's) or better known as Petty's Garage, a two gas station crossing. I'm not family friends or Buds just acquainted as a occasional customer. Mr Petty is normally only in the office on Wednesday's in between races to autograph customer memorabilia. Mr Petty debunked the myth with a laugh he would have liked half that 2,300 hp.
Mr Petty does not like to be referred to as the "King" and will never sign a autograph as the King, There is only one King and he aint it. according to him.
Then my way home from work is another customer Petty's ol Drag race buddy, I'll just call him Roy, still operating a drag race school Roy is a piece of work.
Roy laughing indicating the same, His Pro-Mod dragsters are only doing like 2,500 hp to date. Supercharged.
Then I though i'd call one of my mentor's, The winner of the 1972 Top Fuel World finals, I'll just call him Waldo. He's retired in Wilkesboro now.
Waldo racing top Fuel in the Sixties and early Seventies has just a little knowledge of Hemi's totally myth busted.
so there ya go, believe it or not.

[cyborg]

Oh i believe you,,as i said earlier i thought the elephant topped out at 7-800 hp ,,i was parroting an article i read and i found it to be crazy but i believed it enough to repeat it,,i stand corrected ,,,and i also apologize for it,,,i grew up around short track cars in the east,,my father was vernon "mac" mcwilliams and i've seen my share of tube chassis cars,,,I mostly build bikes myself,,, but i read something and repeated it as fact and i was wrong,,,,,pete

[randy]

Hot Rod magazine did an article on the development of the Hemi this month. Basicaly at 550 h.p. it was blowing up.The biggest H.P. motor to come out of Detroit at the time was the Chevy L88. It was rated at 430 h.p. but at 3200 rpm they didn't want the public to buy them.On the street a Hemi was a tuning nightmare. I have over the years ran several Hemi powered cars in my tweaked Grand National and never really feared them.Not many 10sec Hemis on the street they were like the Boss 429, at Nascar they were something to deal with but on the street not so much. Back in the day there was a story that Don Garlits blew in the engine in his dragster and pulled the engine out of his tow vehicle and the dragster actually went faster. I don't know if it is true or not but it is good story. Keith Black made the Hemi into the powerplant that went in the fastest fuel cars that they still run today but there are not many parts that will intercahang between the two.