So How do i block this using JB weld? By twowheeler (Read 2,046 times)

[LUKE]

i told you guys, twowheeler is a hit and run type of guy!!
he'll punch you then run!!


worse than luke....

[cyborg]

if it worked halleluja!!!!!

[Bashan]

Alley informed me a lot of 50cc bikes have enrichers that won't come off as TW also stated. I wouldn't know, I've never touched a 50cc....snif. I'm kidding.....everything is beautiful....... ....in it's own way...The fluctuating RPMs suggest a leak so go take one. There are air molecules slipping into the system that aren't supposed to be there, they haven't paid the cover charge, which is positive at the red terminal. Jvino....is any of this sinking in? The silicone is not a good idea in your enRicher, did you see my name in there Jvino? Here, I'll do it again for you.....enRicher! Did you get it? Jvino? AH HA HA HA!! The one on the left is Cyborg, that's me on the right pointing to him. That's right, we're small yellow guys and he has been laughing continuously for five years after he planted a steamer. That's right, he planted a steamer. It was either a clam or....let's not go there. Still with me J Vino? You realize the last part of your handle is rife for riffing don't you J....Vino? Hmmmmm? And the first part....J...well there are myriad implications but we don't want to BURN THROUGH THEM! HA HA HA HA LA LA LA LOL! I need help, I'm tired, can somebody else taunt Jvino for a while? TW, you have an air leak somewhere in the induction system, either air cleaner, carb, manifold, or vac system. It's probably that damn silicone, get it the hell out of there. Get a rubber stopper from Lowes and use it in suppository form. OK, done? Let's go! Waddle over to this carb:

see the arrow on the left? Now waddle over here, how's that stopper doing? Really, it helped what? Wow...I wouldn't have thought that......don't tell Jvino...psst psst tee hee. OK! waddle back over to the carb. If you plug that orifice....quit giggling Jvino.....that reference you get...right? Where's your rubber stopper Jvino? OK....I'll wait....hmmm hmmm. Are you done.....? Waddle over here. Can the two of you manage to plug the opening where the blue arrow is pointing. Good, if you do you will shut air flow across the gas port and that should stop fuel flow. You will also need to put a rubber stopper in....stop Jvino....six is enough....a stopper where the choke plugs in or simply stick the choke back in without the electrical connection. OK, I gotta go, you need to keep those stoppers in for two weeks or the auto choke fix won't work. No! Don't argue with the Great Stinky!!

[jvino]

I am with you davec on this one?

[jvino]

Very confused on this one but thanks for the pictures I am trying to learn so I don't have near as much skill as the great stinky but thanks for the picture. A enricher is like a chock that gives scoot more gas while starting I take it. So I learned something I guess you could say thanks great stinky.

[jvino]

Glad it worked out ok.

[LUKE]

your problem startted since you blocked that auto choke thingie.. so i guess the leak issue is out of the question, cough cough. anyway.
that part has its own use, dont alter it.
even appendix has a use in our body.

[Bashan]

Just goofing bud, hope you're not offended. You didn't with the stopper?.....oh good, that was just a joke but Two Wheeler did. Your auto choke is in the ON position when the bike is off and no electricity is flowing through it. The plunger is up and that allows air to flow into the opening at the blue arrow. It flows across a venturi and pulls gas up into the air stream and delivers to the other side of the carb just before the manifold. Once the bike is running the yellow wire (usually) delivers AC current to the heating element in the enricher and it pushes the plunger out and shuts off the system after 5 or 6 minutes. Here's a graphic:

[davec]

Mar 29, 2014 18:48:34 GMT -6 LUKE said:

even appendix has a use in our body.

Hmmm
I lost mine 50 years ago

[Alleyoop]

Mar 29, 2014 9:48:01 GMT -6 twowheeler said:

I dont have the option Bashan posted. Mine is not bolted to the body of the carb. I thought about silicone but what if it leaks down into the passage before it dries?

So I cut the cylinder off the enricher and placed it it the circuit. I then used a ball if Quick Steel and filled in the area around it level with the top surface.

Went for a ride and the rpms were up a bit when scoot was warm. I have been having fluctuating rpms by a few hundred or so every so often and drove me crazy when trying to dial in cvt mods. So now that the rpms are higher and more consistent that kind of tells me that the enricher was sticking at times and running rich. So far its peppier and revs better.

Yep it is leaking, you did not do it right. Now it is going to cost you a new carb. I mentioned to do it right put a manual choke and that manual choke could be used on another carb as well.
Alleyoop

[davec]

All this is waaaaayyy tooo complicated for me
Easier to just buy a new carb

(daamn... one minute too late. Alley beat me to it)

[twowheeler]

Not fluctuating actually...you know how when you tweak tour AF and rmps an rise or fall depending on how you set it? Thats what I meant. One day the scoot will rev at one rpm then the next the rev rpms will be lower for no apparent reason. Its not going up and down just looking at it like a vac leak would.

[Alleyoop]

Yea the VAC LEAK is the ENRICHER area.
Alleyoop

[twowheeler]

And another thing....that annoying high rpm idle at startup is gone too!!!!!

So its not a leak that was causing the fluctuation but the fact that the enricher would be sticking open and that would lower rpms when scoot was warmed up-too rich.

[jvino]

Glad you got that problem fixed I missed it how you did it though?