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Post by ronb on Aug 8, 2019 7:36:41 GMT -6
Problem narrowed down to ignition switch , cleaning the contacts resolved problem for now.
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Post by ronb on Aug 6, 2019 19:28:04 GMT -6
safety switch on rear brake good, no switch on front brake
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Post by ronb on Aug 6, 2019 10:11:10 GMT -6
I checked the fuse , it's good!
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Post by ronb on Aug 6, 2019 10:09:56 GMT -6
Scooter will not start with automatic ignition.
Normally when I turn the ignition switch on, dashboard lights come on, fuel gauge needle starts moving it will honk and will power when I hit the start button.
Right now none of the above happens .
I can kick start it though ....when I do
Dashboard lights up, fuel gauge starts moving, it will honk ; but no brake lights when I squeeze the brakes , no turn signals.
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Post by ronb on Aug 6, 2019 7:20:32 GMT -6
Looks like there is a safety switch on the rear brakes can't see the one on the front brakes. In any case if I squeeze front brakes it won't start .
I will follow the electric diagram .
Can it be a ground problem ??
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Post by ronb on Aug 5, 2019 17:19:28 GMT -6
Developed following problem on my 50cc 4 stroke chinese scooter.
When I turn the ignition key to start position
a) Dashboard lights don't come on
b) Fuel gauge does not move
c) Rear brake lights do not come on when squeezed
d) No sound on the start button; can not start.
Battery seems ok .
I kick start engine runs
a) Dashboard lights and fuel gauge on
b) Brake lights , turn signals do not function
Can somebody give instructions where to check ..
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Post by ronb on Aug 14, 2015 10:17:45 GMT -6
Hi JR, I said Boreal in my post and not Bolero. Looking at the manual, mine is indeed an FY50QT-5. everything is identical. Thanks to you after six years of ownership I have a manual.  As far as the light switch goes. Till the switch broke . the headlights would not come on when I started the scooter. I had to flip the switch. However when the switch broke and I glued the ball to left most position it started to come on automatically . In Quebec cars must have their headlights on all the time. News to me also, according to the manual I don't have a kill switch. The only kill switch on the scooter is on the kick stand. By the way , yesterday before I started the scoot I removed the headlight bulb so that it would not drain battery power. I can't tell whether it is because of that , new battery and new plug or some other reason the crank force seemed much stronger. Should I still leave the ball where it is ? Should I order the switch previously mentioned ? www.ebay.com/itm/Scooter-Left-Right-Handle-Switch-Control-Assembly-GY6-50cc-125cc-150cc-Moped-/191659209547?hash=item2c9fc7734b&vxp=mtrThanks again |
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Post by ronb on Aug 13, 2015 22:57:46 GMT -6
JR
This is known as an AMG Boreal, I read somewhere that it had Sachs engine ?? Where on scoot can I find the FY50QT-5 ??
You are right again. When the switch broke , I glued the ball. Lights would burn , when the scooter was running. I may seem knowledgeable but I am not; can you try to explain what I did ? I will remove the ball as suggested . Will that eliminate the headlights completely ??
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Post by ronb on Aug 13, 2015 19:45:50 GMT -6
UPDATE: I connected the car battery , it cranked !!! Went and bought a new battery and installed it. Bingo. I don't even have to kick start , it starts from the start button . I need to replace the start button, kill switch assembly. The one I bought is not good will not accomodate the mirror.   As you can see mine is fixed at the left most position. Is this high beam ?? What is the middle one ? Probably draining my battery at start.. Any idea where I can get this ? Clicked through the banners to see if any one of them carries it could not find . How about the one on this link ?? www.ebay.com/itm/New-Right-Light-Start-Kill-Switch-GY6-Moped-Scooter-50-150-7-WIRE-Mirror-Hole-/271262631577?hash=item3f28834699&vxp=mtrYou guys rock .. Thanks a lot. Happy man.. |
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Post by ronb on Aug 13, 2015 19:29:04 GMT -6
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Post by ronb on Aug 13, 2015 7:41:17 GMT -6
The scooter is a 2009 AMG., Canadian company that assembled the scoots in Montreal from Chinese parts, they closed their doors. Why did I change the CDI ? Simply lack of knowledge. A month ago when I started researching into the problem , I read somewhere that the CDI was a part that frequently goes bad., did not know how to test it, found one on ebay for $10.00 and ordered it. Headlights coming on when I turn the key. The slider switch on the right handle bar is broken., came off. I have the metallic ball the closes the contacts glued to the left most position. I ordered one though  |
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Post by ronb on Aug 12, 2015 15:41:23 GMT -6
Thanks for the speedy reply
Did the continuity test , NEG battery terminal to Frame , getting the continuity sound. I will connect car battery as per your instructions and see the results
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Post by ronb on Aug 12, 2015 12:45:12 GMT -6
I own a GY6 50 cc Chinese scooter assembled in Canada. I have been riding it for the last five years , did 5,500 kms on it.
The automatic start was giving me problems since the beginning. I was kicksarting it ; I would push push the Start Button , it would crank but not start then kickstart it .
A few weeks ago the kicksart started slipping . I decided to fix the kick start and tackle the automatic start problem at the same time. I purchased the kick start kit – gear, spring etc - , an AC CDI , starter solenoid and new spark plugs. I put together the kick start assembly watching you tube videos ,installed it but now when I pushed the automatic start I button instead of cranking it would just click, solenoid ??. I could not even kickstart it.
I discovered this site and started to educate myself going through the various threads and library. .I changed the CDI, installed the the new solenoid and changed the spark plug , started doing some tests .
There was no gound on my motor so I installed a ground wire to one of the screws on the head and attached it to the chassis.
Fuse OK
Did continuity test for the Start Button , Start Button ok.
I connected the battery which was on a charger to see if I am getting 12Volts. When I turn the key the fuel gauge starts going up the lights come on but when I push the start button everything dies., lights go off fuel gauge goes down., I got a 13.4 volt reading on it as soon as I disconnected it from the charger , but it would not hold the charge reading would go down to 12.5v within an hour. When I connected it and pushed the start button , I saw 10.5 volts on my DMM for a split of a second
I want to connect the car battery to see if the problem is with the battery but I am afraid to damage the car battery if there is short somewhere.
I need some guidance , feel like I am shooting in the dark..
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