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Yep, installed the relay today and the lights are working on bright now. The battery is charging but not enough.

I have three of the big bulbs in the tail/brake light, so removed two of those. Now with the headlights off, I can get 13.8 volts. The fan brings it down to 13.6 and when the lights are on, it goes down to 12.5.

So now, It's time for LED's and a switch to turn off one of the headlights..

Ok, I installed the relay in place of the Blocking Diode and I'm heading in the right direction.............. It's charging at 13 volts with the fan running and the RPM's around 3-4000. When I hook up the headlights though (3 tail lights on rear still on) I drop to about 12.5 volts.

I think that I need to install LED's and possibly put an off switch on one of the headlights. I could also remove two of the bulbs in the rear for the tail/brake lights, as the large one in the middle should be adequate, as it's pretty bright. That would take some of the load off and possibly put my scooter on the + charging side.

Also, the R/R that people have been recommending may be in the future, but just don't have the money right now.

But as said, I have it going in the right direction finally.

Cruiser, the R/R has a Red, White and black. As it sits, the Red wire is putting out only 6-7 volts, the White wire is putting out as much as 13.6 volts. The black is a ground.

The Red wire from the R/R attaches to a smaller dark green wire that then runs to the Blocking Diode as well as several other items in the system.

I installed a jumper between the white and the red wire and the headlights then came on with the key and were solid bright. I then show the battery as charging, some. I also found that even with the Blocking Diode unplugged, the lights will come on when the engine is running.

I picked up the Relay this morning and will be installing it to see what I come up with and then go from there.

Bob, I've had my scooter down to the frame several times working on a charging issue.

On my scooter to be able to change the bulbs, you have to take the windshield off, a couple other pieces on the front and then the entire dash can be removed. The speedometer just screws off and all the front plastic can be removed with screws. Then you just need to turn the instrument panel over and unplug the wiring harness leading to it to completely remove it. You can then easily remove and replace the bulbs.

I've been working on a charging problem for a while....... Finally figured out that the hot wire (Red) to the R/R isn't getting enough Voltage. It's getting only 6-7 volts.

So I jumped across from a hot wire carrying full charge and my lights came on bright when I turned the key on and the system actually started showing a bit of a charge.

So I began pulling the covering off the wiring and found a couple things that really bother me. I found that the ground wires on both ends of the wiring harness have easily 6 wires wired to one small wire. I also found that the hot wires are the same way, several hot wires connected to one small wire, then thru the harness to the other end where there are several more hot wires connected to that same wire.

I've separated several of the grounds and mounted them to the frame. Next I'm thinking of installing a fuse block and then connect the hot wires to this block. I can get one where I can separate the always on hot wires and the hot with ignition on wires. I think this may take some load off the factory harness and may even help with the charging system. It may also help the wires coming from the R/R as they seem to get pretty hot when the scooter is running.

I'm wondering, has anyone else thought about installing a fuse block in their scooter? If so, did it help any?

As you know, many have charging issues. I too have them.

When the factory lights are on with my 250 viva they dim and brighten accordingly with the RPM's. I wonder if this is usual, or something that is unique to my charging problems. If unique, I could have a problem with a weak hot wire or something similar.

I need to get this thing up and charging correctly before the warm weather is over and I would like to be riding my scooter, rather than working on it. (I'm sure many of you know my pain.)

I have got a few short rides in, but afraid to venture very far from home at this point.

Any and all help and advice is appreciated.