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Post by ericrockstar on Feb 1, 2012 22:30:36 GMT -6
The thing is, the outer plate(with the fins) is bigger than the inner on mine. So the belt never gets as high as it could....
Most places tell the diameter of the biggest one, but not the inner(smaller one).
It really doesn't make sense since there s more room closer than further away from the case. Not much room, just about 1/4 inch. But still
The el cheapo is shipped from some place in Texas so that makes me feel a little better about it. I think they might be the same place I ordered my $30 carb from? Maybe my $10 belt too.
I have recently been burned from eBay though so I am somewhat aware of the risk.
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Post by ericrockstar on Feb 1, 2012 10:20:16 GMT -6
I just used a short stubby one they had at Walmart. It might be better to get a valve with a bend in it. I couldn't find one at a store though. Probably have to order it online.
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Post by ericrockstar on Feb 1, 2012 9:28:56 GMT -6
I don't really do scooter racing, but it would be nice to get more realistic top speed from the beast. Id spend the extra cash to get an extra 5 mph out of her. I know the original one on there was junk, but it was good junk till I got my hands on it..hehe
Thanks for the links and I'll consider it! I have the right tools now so I won't break another one.
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Post by ericrockstar on Feb 1, 2012 6:39:20 GMT -6
I've been looking at a cheap variator replacement on eBay for like $26 shipped. It says 115mm, so should be about the same as what's in there. I question if spending +$100 for a Dr Pulley is worth it.
My problem is, I changed the belt over the summer and my rollers went sideways. Removing the variator without an impact I cracked a fin on the fan through to the smooth side and now it be a chewing up my belt at high speed. I'll probably just get another $10 belt too. My rollers also had a bunch of little flat spots on them, so replacement looks like a good idea.
My scoot is a 150 long case with 13" tires. It can easily cruise 50mph all day, but 60 is maxed out.
I don't think an expensive variator is gonna get me anymore top speed so I'll just go cheap. That helps keep the wife happy too!
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Post by ericrockstar on Jan 30, 2012 9:57:19 GMT -6
Thank you! If there is a next time, I will follow that route. You got an awesome deal BTW. Motorcycle shop near me would charge a lot more. Maybe a small discount if I took the wheel off myself?
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Post by ericrockstar on Jan 30, 2012 9:06:39 GMT -6
I thought I would update everyone on my tire issues. They are finally on and have a good look and feel, but it took some time to get here.
I ordered the tires off eBay back in October for a great deal. It was $50 for 2 130/60/13 tires, and got them in November. No big hurry to get em on as my riding season was closing up for the year. Then I ordered some tire spoons for a great deal, $5 for 3 spoons. Didn't realize they were coming from Hong Kong and took 3 weeks to get here. Oh and when they came in, the spoons are all of about 4" inches long and not very sturdy. Look just like the picture but not hardly useable for anything I can tell. So harbor freight has a tire spoon on sale for $4. I pick up two of them. It is 20" inches long and big. But it works. I also ordered some cheap rim protectors online for $7. It seemed like a good idea at the time.
I started with the front tire first cause it's easy to get off. Take the valve needle off and try using a big c-clamp to break the bead. Got one side off but couldn't get the other side loose. End up using a flat screwdriver and a hammer. Got the bead off but that tire is in no shape for a spare as I punctured the bead. Oh well. The harbor freight tire spoons were great for getting the tire off the rim and the rim protectors worked well to keep me from messing up the rim. Now, I have watched about 20 YouTube videos to see how to do this. They make it look a lot easier than it really is. Maybe it is with a bigger tire and the right tools and know how. It still took me about 20 minutes of struggling to get the tire off. Soap is your friend. Use it like you have a never ending supply.
Now getting that tire back on...leave space for some choice words. Leave the rim on the ground brake side up and slide one side over. Make sure you line the tread pattern up the right way. It is directional. The first bead goes on easy. No problems right... The next is a fight every step of the way. I get about half way around and then you need those rim protectors and spoons badly. I use my knee to hold one side down, then work it around with the spoons. Get it almost on then the side my knee holds just pops up. Not an easy job. Hold one side down with a spoon then work the other. You need more spoons. I end up using a flat screwdriver. Then I finally get the last bit on and one of the rim protectors falls inside the tire!doh... Yeah, so the tire had to come back off so I can get it out. Just great.
Next part, getting the bead to seal. I have a 25 gallon air compressor, so I figured that would work fine. NOT. Would not seal. I had to take it to my mechanics at work. They wrap a tie down strap around it, no luck. Tire soap helps fill some gaps. Three guys pressing sides out and a giant 125 gallon shop compressor before it finally seals.
What a major PIA. That was just one tire. The front. Easy right....
Well, the Know how does help, cause I get the back tire off and on in about 20 minutes. Decided I had to take it to work to get the bead sealed. I could not deal with that at home.
So I know that I have some resources that many just don't. "mechanics", real tire soap, giant air compressor, straps.
My conclusion is for most people it would be totally worth spending some $$$$ to have someone else do this job. My scooter will most likely be in a junkyard by the time I need new tires. 7500 chinomiles original engine.
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Post by ericrockstar on Jan 11, 2012 22:20:16 GMT -6
IDK what the banning nonsense is all about? You got to do some bizarre things in my book to get banned. Well actually, I have Un-friended my mother a few times....
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Post by ericrockstar on Jan 10, 2012 22:22:09 GMT -6
Thought you might get a kick out of this! I mean no offense. Attachments:
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Post by ericrockstar on Jan 3, 2012 21:38:18 GMT -6
I saw a YouTube video of a guy "boring" the case with a dremel tool. He just stuck a rag down in to catch the shavings and went to town on the case. It's not much to shave off and the way I saw it, the gasket makes the seal anyways. What you don't want to do is cut too thin, but there is a little room to work with.
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Post by ericrockstar on Jan 3, 2012 13:00:34 GMT -6
Thanks guys! The video is good too. I guess there is need to buy a few tools here for me. Don't want to ruin my new tires with a cheap screwdriver LOL! Maybe I'll pick up a few bottles of that bead balancer too idk.
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Post by ericrockstar on Jan 3, 2012 10:58:28 GMT -6
Hi class, I think I know a few of you and nice to meet the rest.
So I ordered some tires online for a good deal and I'm wandering how to install them. like, balancing. Is it necessary? I do not see any weights on my tires now so I assume they are not balanced either?
Now on to changing them.... I'm a little nervous doing that with a few screwdrivers, some soap and a tire bar. Basically, I'm nervous that I might crack my cheap Chinese rim getting the old tire off and new one on. Any tips?
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