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Post by scooterfox007 on Apr 2, 2011 1:07:04 GMT -6
thanks alley. ill take a look at it in yhe morning
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Post by scooterfox007 on Apr 2, 2011 0:38:27 GMT -6
hmmmm well the first two i did check and found no problems. however the last i never thought about.
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Post by scooterfox007 on Apr 2, 2011 0:32:00 GMT -6
yes. new variator, clutch, and belt. and yes i did. its a power link 835 20
this is a 150cc bms apache
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Post by scooterfox007 on Apr 2, 2011 0:14:44 GMT -6
okay heres how it goes. a friend laid down my scooter about a month ago and i've been repairing it since. One of the main issues was he broke the clutch assembly. This caused my belt to snap which in turn broke the roller weights. I didn't know. I replaced the ENTIRE clutch. i drove it and the second belt snapped a week later. opened it up found the roller weight ground in half. replaced roller weights. scooter was making weird noise and wouldn't hold top end properly. opened it up again found out the NEW roller weight had ALSO ground in half. Replaced ENTIRE front pully system. Now.......heres where it makes zero sense. The second belt was checked for wear and tear and found zero. Put belt back onto completely NEW clutch and pully. So i basicly had a new transmision. Second belt just snapped. I just replaced all this a week ago. Someone please explain why even with everything brand new the second belt still snapped.
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Post by scooterfox007 on Feb 4, 2011 0:44:53 GMT -6
thanks alley. i was hoping it was just a cold thing. My girlfriend keeps telling me it can't be the cold thing and i'm just too damn stubborn to not take it in to get it fixed. Well i let you guys know if it helped.
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Post by scooterfox007 on Feb 4, 2011 0:01:38 GMT -6
well i got a new starter in it AND a new auto choke. but it's still not starting like it should.
Things i still need to replace
1. Battery
ya that's pretty much all that's left
but heres what is still happening. The auto choke is working i can tell by how the bike acts once it's started. The problem is still well starting it. So far, jumping off another 12v batter, taking the air filter off, and manually choking it by hand by plugging the inlet hole makes it start.
Now i'm sure this has something to do with it being 23 degrees outside the past few days but still that should be something i need to do.....
It idles fine now too and the reving issue is completely gone
I'm almost wondering if either my jets need rejetting or is the value needs to be adjusted again with the new auto choke.
anyways guys let me know your thoughts on this cause i'm getting to the point where i may just throw in the towel on this and take it to a shop and having THEM look at it.
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Post by scooterfox007 on Jan 31, 2011 19:10:41 GMT -6
well guys doesn't matter what the starting problem is anymore cause i just burnt out my starter. So now i have a complete dead scooter with a broken choke and bad battery to add it all up.
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Post by scooterfox007 on Jan 31, 2011 1:20:03 GMT -6
thanks cruiser. i'm kind of hoping i don't need to order a auto choke online. I'm in arizona and we have a few scooter shops in town. I'll try the carb cleaner as i have plenty of it
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Post by scooterfox007 on Jan 31, 2011 0:35:06 GMT -6
Well i have found out all the issues that are causing this starting issue.
1. my choke is bad, it's forever stuck in the extended position which i already know is causing a hard start 2. my battery may be on its last leg as it's only pushing like 90 cold start amps or something like that. It failed a battery test at checkers auto parts but it may just need to be charged fully.
The problem is i currently don't have the finances to simply replace these parts and the local scooter shop says i can't simply just replace the choke i'd have to buy a new carb to get the choke. So if any of you guys have suggestions on how to start this thing let me know.
Please note some things. It starts just fine when warm. It doesn't want to start at all when cold. I don't have enough juice to crank it past 1 minute of continuous power. And it doesn't want to start instantly when put on a car battery.
I was thinking of buying a bottle of starter fluid and seeing if that does the trick for now. please let me know you're ideas
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Post by scooterfox007 on Jan 21, 2011 1:21:33 GMT -6
well here's the final outcome so far.
The carb is fully adjusted properly and i did find a leak in my vacuum lines and the spark plug was loose.
The down-side:
1. scooter is STILL having issues starting 2. Battery is still dying quickly
The up-sides:
1. Acceleration has increased 2. The high and low reving while sitting at lights has stopped.
Things that could still be wrong:
1. Battery could be bad and need to be replaced. 2. Autochoke could be bad and need to be replaced.
Any of you guys think you may know what exactly this things issue is let me know.
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Post by scooterfox007 on Jan 19, 2011 1:44:15 GMT -6
okay well I started to adjust the screw and it did change the rpms so that's a good sign. I noticed that the screw was way off tuning wise as it was almost 6 turns out from all the way in. I have the screw turned 1/2 turn from all the way in and it seems to have helped stop the rpm issue at lights but it still didn't want to start tonight as i just had to jump it to get home. I'm not sure if i set the fuel/air mixture screw right nor am i familiar with how exactly to set it.
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Post by scooterfox007 on Jan 17, 2011 13:24:15 GMT -6
thanks alley. i'll take a crack at it and see if there's any changes
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Post by scooterfox007 on Jan 17, 2011 12:36:26 GMT -6
thanks for the suggest kz but we already tried that. I was thinking the same thing, "well if it's cold then why not let it warm up somewhere warm first." It worked for a few days but now its having issues even in the day light. Mind you it does start easier with it a bit warmer out but it is still having issues.
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Post by scooterfox007 on Jan 17, 2011 12:21:13 GMT -6
okay i have a Apache BMS 150 that's having some major issues starting while cold. I do know these little engines hate being cold but when you're sitting there long enough to drain your whole battery trying to start it something must be wrong.
Signs that something is wrong:
1.battery seemed to act like it's drained when cold out 2. once started wont idle on it's own (even with adjusting idle screw) 3. once engine is warm and the auto choke should be functioning engine begins reving high then low then back to high (even with idle speed set low) 4. once a few miles down the road engine continues to remain on high revs enough to make staying stationary at stop lights difficult.
Things that I suspect as problem
1. auto choke isn't functioning properly 2. carb might have a small clog somewhere i can't see (tried cleaning it didn't seem like it needed it) 3. the valve screw may need adjusting.
before i start taking things apart i want to see if this is a common issue and if there's any suggestions. I suspect most of this issue has something to do with the low RPM design of the carb.
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Post by scooterfox007 on Sept 20, 2010 17:52:40 GMT -6
well i found my problem. the exhaust valve is leaking by just a little bit. And you were right wd-40 did help to figure that out. now i'm not sure if its the value is scratched and needs to be replaced or if its the seal itself. i'm really hoping its not the seal cause then i'd have to replace that entire head piece which i just replaced (even though the new part was used). anyways if you guys have any suggestions or a link to how to take the value off let me know
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