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Post by Bashan on Jul 13, 2014 20:12:17 GMT -6
Do you have a diode?
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Post by Bashan on Jul 13, 2014 20:22:40 GMT -6
Unhook the ignition switch connector, the Y-B-G, and test the non ignition side for voltage with the key off. See if you get anything. Test each wire to ground.
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Post by skunkhome on Jul 13, 2014 20:48:26 GMT -6
I left eft the ignition off and checked ohms across each of the points on the lead from the wiring harness. From ground to yellow is 50 ohms, ground to green is 2 ohms and ground to black is 10 ohms. Black to yellow is 43ohms, black to green 8 ohms and green to yellow is 43 ohms. None carry voltage unless ignition is on. That just does not look like the diagram. it is infinity on the rectifier side.
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Post by skunkhome on Jul 13, 2014 20:55:03 GMT -6
I don't have a diode.
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Post by Bashan on Jul 13, 2014 21:00:47 GMT -6
Bear with me a bit more.....so yellow on the ignition switch side, switch off.....voltage? 12v DC? By the way, search CF 250 items because it's a CF Moto clone of the Honda Helix engine which is CN 250.
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Post by Bashan on Jul 13, 2014 21:21:18 GMT -6
See if the black wire in the ignition has continuity with the black wire in the CDI.
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Post by skunkhome on Jul 13, 2014 21:22:33 GMT -6
Believe it or not this is the wiring diagram on the back page of the owners manual that was in the trunk of the scooter. It bears no resemblance to what I see on the bike. . It is horrid to read but looks far better after copying and cleaning up.
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Post by skunkhome on Jul 13, 2014 21:25:47 GMT -6
Bear with me a bit more.....so yellow on the ignition switch side, switch off.....voltage? 12v DC? By the way, search CF 250 items because it's a CF Moto clone of the Honda Helix engine which is CN 250. No voltage on yellow in 4p connector with or without switch on.
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Post by Bashan on Jul 13, 2014 21:28:46 GMT -6
Let me call a friend in here.
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Post by Bashan on Jul 13, 2014 21:32:46 GMT -6
That doesn't surprise me one bit, the WDs and manuals suck. That's a single phase system and isn't close to yours. It may be tomorrow until I can rustle up the troops. I have scenarios that would work with your wire scheme but I'm just not sure. I will not forget you, keep checking back. Rich
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Post by skunkhome on Jul 13, 2014 21:43:29 GMT -6
I do know the the engine does start and run with the 4p connector separated. The instrument panel and all seems to work but the headlight does not burn. Plug it back in and the headlight burns. I haven't a clue where the CDI is. I have searched all over but don't see. I truly appreciate all the help but don't feel pressured to get me answers in a hurry. I'm going to keep tinkering. I may call the PO and ask him if he has the original rectifier that supposedly Cooke the old battery.
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Post by JR on Jul 13, 2014 21:59:21 GMT -6
The wiring diagram is a joke and not anywhere near what you have. Let me look for a minute.
JR
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Post by JR on Jul 13, 2014 22:14:05 GMT -6
www.jr-richscooterdoc.com/WD_Cfmoto_Fashion_diagram.pdfYou'll find this diagram will work a lot better. I also wouldn't pay too much attention to the ohm readings but rather a test across the yellow leads from one to another and see what they read on the AC scale. They should red equally from 70 to 100Vac with the engine at a higher idle. Also from what I see this scooter should have a 6-wire R/R with 3 yellow leads 1 Red goes to key ignition and battery 1 Black goes to black on the key switch and reads voltage needs by the scooter 1 Green = ground
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Post by Bashan on Jul 13, 2014 22:34:10 GMT -6
Thanks man, I couldn't make it work with the red-green lead. JR knows from whence he speaks. The best solution may be to get the 6 wire and we can wire it into the system. You've got to check that stator with some RPMs though as Jack stated. I think the wiring on that bike has been tampered with. Rich
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Post by skunkhome on Jul 13, 2014 23:08:40 GMT -6
I am pretty certain the PO bought the wrong rectifier. I figure the alternator is putting out as the headlight burns when hooked up. We will get it sorted out somehow. Thanks again you guys.
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