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Post by catrell92 on Sept 23, 2010 10:49:35 GMT -6
Ok so thx to all the guys with the the overheating problem that helped me. Today I tried burping the radiator and all was good for the most part. I followed the instructions from the pdi and was letting the bike run without the radiator cap. And watching the fluid flow while adding coolant accordingly. I then looked in my glove department while waiting and to my surprise anti freeze had flew out the radiator (I guess from the heat) and the radiator was bone dry (there were no leaks btw), so I added more. be mind that the front chrome piece is removed so wires and radiator ect. Is exposed. The anti freeze had covered this yellow/red looking module all in coolant. I said uh ohh this can't ;)be good, it had a really good amount of wires going to it so I thought the bike would short out or something, my inital thought was that it has something to do with the alarm or wireless keypad start. I dried as much as I could with a towel but it wasn't thin enough to get. Really deep, so fluid was still inside the inside crease. I put everything back togther an.d started it up... everything was good. So I shut it off and went to chill in the house. I then out of know where here my bike trying to start up by itself I'm like ??!! I hit the lock button 3 times which turns it off it didnt respond.. Its still going at it trying to start .. I know I didnt hit remote sTart button, I then think back to when the anti freeze had gotten all over that module. FML! idk if my starter is done because it was trying to start for like 70secs non stop.. I pulled the battery and im praying that much damage hasn't been done I'm going to post pics if you are confused. I knew it was an elctrical short or something because the alarm was going crazy and getting low and high pitched lol
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Post by ccprof on Sept 23, 2010 11:34:45 GMT -6
It's possessed by a demon! Sorry! It sounds like the lock/remote/starter relay got wet and shorted out! Sounds like hair dryer time.
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Post by catrell on Sept 23, 2010 12:04:46 GMT -6
Thx dude. Could I remove the relay and run the bike without it and would it be good if I just let it sit and dry out (the relay)
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Post by scootaway on Sept 23, 2010 12:16:50 GMT -6
ccprof your sense of humour made me laugh cause that was my initial thought as well. To our catrell guest we think you must get some hot air or air pressure in there to dry the lot out. Why don't you go on and register as a member lots of info available.
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Post by ccprof on Sept 23, 2010 12:19:52 GMT -6
I don't know enough about them to give you good advice there. Personally, I think the remotes are nothing but trouble and I tell people not to use them but I don't know what would happen if you removed it. We'll wait and see what the experts like JR say. I'm concerned now that you need to get things dry and that coolant is probably going to leave a film that'll be tough to get rid of.
Definitely post some pix. I'm curious about that radiator arrangement and where they are. I think the lack of air flow is part of the problem since it's so common.
Did you get it from that Bargaintory bunch in Mechanicsburg?
There have been so many of those with problems, I wonder if anybody has filed complaints with the state Bur of Consumer Affairs. It seems like "dealer" knows there's problems but sells them anyhow. Doing your own PDI may appear to mitigate their involvement but I don't know. I do know that somebody posted a very positive testimonial about the scoot and them over on SD and of course they had to respond how great they were. Sounds like they were blowing there own horn.
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Post by ccprof on Sept 23, 2010 12:22:28 GMT -6
Scootaway - you snuck in while I was replying. He is a member, don't know why he showed as a guest, maybe just replied without logging in.
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Post by catrell92 on Sept 23, 2010 14:11:28 GMT -6
Yeah that was me .because my new epic 4G was acting stupid but anyways my scoot is possesed lol its acting better but it still needs to dry out a little more because it tryed to start up randomly, Itook a blow dryer on cool and bew down the whole harness and the computer looking wire box, radiator coolant got inside there too. = should everything be cool if I just let it. Air out ? Lol. Don't want the bike to try to overstart while its running. I removed the alarm/remote start relay also as that was flooded with coolant
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Post by Cruiser on Sept 23, 2010 14:40:17 GMT -6
Looked at the 250cc circuit diagrams that we have in our database. It looks like you should be able to disconnect the alarm system and regain full function of the scoot by jumping two pins. Our diagrams show an 8 pin connector. If you jump pins 6 and 7 (black/white and grey/white wires) together, everything should work OK without the alarm system. The one thing to remember is that all scoots do not follow the same wire color convention so the wires at pins 6 and 7 may not be the same colors as noted. I am also assuming that the pin outs for the alarms are the same across different makes of scoots.
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Post by catrell92 on Sept 23, 2010 16:13:13 GMT -6
Yeah it starts without the alarm, no jumping needed. I just found kut it got inside the main control box though. Where the harness connects. Im about to use a blow dryer on cool and help it dry out
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Post by Cruiser on Sept 23, 2010 17:02:05 GMT -6
Good deal. Not all alarms require the jumper when removing them.
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