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Post by bdub on Mar 6, 2011 13:36:34 GMT -6
I have a 50cc, generic scooter that won't break 35, was wondering were to start if i wanted more power and a greater top end. Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Post by madcollie on Mar 6, 2011 14:42:00 GMT -6
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Post by jhbietz on Mar 6, 2011 14:42:11 GMT -6
This is my favorite set up for the 50's and your best bang for the buck. 88cc (52mm) big bore kit Main jet 2 drill number sizes bigger. K and N style filter 1500rpm torque spring 9.5 gram sliders Watch color of spark plug to fine tune
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Post by Alleyoop on Mar 6, 2011 16:31:50 GMT -6
Jhbietz, Good combo, What is your top speed with that setup so Bdub can decide if he wants to go into the engine or just go with CVT Tuneing and Fuel Tuneing and possibley a Less restrictive Muffler. Alleyoop
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Post by jhbietz on Mar 6, 2011 16:48:33 GMT -6
My wife's will just hit 50mph tested with GPS. It will totally out perform a lightly modded Zuma. I haven't seen a 50cc that needed a performance exhaust yet till you add a hot cam, big valve head, and bigger carb. 150cc bikes use the same size pipe as the 50's so there is usually plenty of breathing capacity there for the 50's.
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Post by skooter on Mar 6, 2011 17:08:33 GMT -6
Will the 88cc/52mm kit require any case mods, or is it a direct bolt on to the stock cases?
Sounds like a combo i might try out as well.
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Post by jhbietz on Mar 6, 2011 17:40:38 GMT -6
I have only done one that I had to open up the case. That was my old 2006. Every other one I have done it fit rite in.
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Post by jhbietz on Mar 6, 2011 17:48:16 GMT -6
One other thing. I have used kits from Scrappydog and NCY. The Scrappydod kits have a thicker cylinder then the NCY kits. I don't know why but Scrappydogs prices are cheaper on Ebay then on his website.
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Post by Kaveman on Mar 6, 2011 19:13:59 GMT -6
Scrappy did honor the Ebay "buy it now" price last week when I purchased the high performance camshaft he had listed. However I did place a seperate order tho from him for my replacement crankshaft and other needed parts. He did combine shipping and shipped the camshaft with the rest of my parts in the same package(due in monday) . BillC.
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Post by jhbietz on Mar 6, 2011 19:48:41 GMT -6
I have to say thatbi have bean very happy with the service I have gotten from Scrappydod. Just remember the parts are usually "original equipment quality" meaning standard Chinese stuff. There shipping is very quick! about 2 days to me.
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Post by bdub on Mar 7, 2011 11:02:53 GMT -6
Thanks for the replies. I'm thinking of getting a 100cc bbk. I guess the first question is, should i install the kit first or upgrade some other stuff before hand?
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Post by bdub on Mar 7, 2011 11:06:40 GMT -6
Also, what kind of change would i get out of CVT and Fuel tuning? I'm mainly looking for a higher top end, and i may go this route if the bbk looks like it would cost too much.
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Post by skooter on Mar 7, 2011 12:55:13 GMT -6
Changing the variator rollers to a heavier weight will increase your top end MPH. It's cheap to do, and an easy install.
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Post by bdub on Mar 7, 2011 15:18:56 GMT -6
cool going to try that, also there is a copper plug over my air/fuel mix screw. I just read somewhere i could drill that out, im cautious about drilling into my carb. Did i read that right?
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Post by jhbietz on Mar 7, 2011 17:09:05 GMT -6
A word of caution. Don't use the 9.5 gram sliders with a stock torque spring. Way to heavy. I would remove your old ones, weigh them and then go about 2 grams heavier if you use sliders. Sometimes changing the CDI can improve top speed. Its not very often and usually on the more expense scoots.
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