New 50CC Scoot Bogs & Shuts Off / Petcock Issue By straightbangin (Read 26,073 times)

[gatekeeper]

Aug 11, 2011 19:35:11 GMT -6 straightbangin said:

Gotcha. When I turn either screw I only turn it 1/4 turn at a time and wait 15 seconds for it to catch up ( I'm gentle with it )

Oh also when I said my spark was wet it wasn't like super wet it just wasn't like bone dry

That's good because I've found they respond best to a gentle touch. But then there are those times when a bigger hammer is needed!

[straightbangin]

very true

[eivad11]

my scooter does the same thing, but i still have somewhat of gas left, it will start back up after a minute or so, then will run for awhile then do the same thing, i either think its the petcock or fuel sender

[straightbangin]

thanks for the info eivad11. Mine has been doing it for 3 weeks and its less than 6 weeks old. I'm hoping to get it fixed for good Sometimes when it happens it wont start back up for over 24 hrs though I guess it gets really pissed when it happens

[straightbangin]

With scooter off I turned the mixture screw clockwise until it stopped ( 2 1/4 turns) then I turned it back 1 full turn from that. I turned the scooter on and adjusted the idle so that it was just before the point of the back wheel wanting to move. I went for a 20 minute drive, slow, fast, up little hills, down little hills, over bumps, slow accelerate, fast accelerate and up to 25mph ( i usually go 20) and all seems fine! It starts right up fine too! I THINK the problem may be solved (I hope) When I'm sitting on it and it is idling, it does seem to vibrate harder than usual. I don't know if this is a bad thing for the scooter. As a woman I can't complain about the sensation. LMAO I tell ya one thing. Scooters are like people, they break your trust once and you never trust them again 100%. I'll never take my scoot for a long trip into downtown Miami again ( its 2 miles of bridges to get there ) I won't drive it further than I can push it should I have to, so I'm going to keep it just for transportation around the beach. If I want to go further I'll get a motorcycle someday Thanks for your help guys you are awesome! I hope to not be back on here posting for more help for a very long time ( fingers crossed)

DAMN IT. See below . . . .

[straightbangin]

Well that was short lived I just went out to drive my scooter 5 blocks to the laundromat to pick up my laundry and it died 1 block away from my apartment. It had been cooling down for about 20 min prior to that. Its raining out. The last time it died it was raining out too. I wonder if the moisture has anything to do with it. I keep the gas cap covered and I keep the scooter covered as best I can when its raining. After it died just now I decided to let it sit for about 15 seconds, then try to start it once. It started right up but idled very low ( I have it set to idle a lot faster than it sounded) I let it idle for 30 seconds and then I went to accelerate gently and it bogged and shut off within 3 seconds. Back to the drawing board. I guess when it stops raining I will try to suck the lines by the canister next as I haven't done that yet as suggested. Off to walk to the laundromat w a huge umbrella.

[Alleyoop]

OK, Turn the Fuel Ratio screw another 1/4 turn COUNTER CLOCKWISE, Also if it is idleing to low that it may seem to want to Die Raise the Idle a bit using the IDLE Speed Screw.

Yes the scoots do not like water, if it splashs around under by the motor water can get on the coil and it will arch and the motor will most likely stop running.(DON"T WANT TO USE THE WORDS KILL OR DIE or anything that bad(HEHE).
Alleyoop

[straightbangin]

Thanks.

I don't get it. It ran perfect (not one bog) for like 20-25 min today and when the scoot gives me this problem it happens before 20 min.

Okay, I'll do another 1/4 turn counter clockwise on the fuel ration screw.

It was ideing fine today (pretty high and as high as it could w/ out the wheel spinning when on center stand) It only started ideling low after it died and I restarted it.

If I turn the idle up any higher (the wheels starts to spin a tiny bit) will it take of on me while I'm at a redlight or trying to stay still? hehehe.

I don't go through any puddles, I go around them both last time and today it was just a misting rain, so nothing splashed up in it.

I wish I could get the auto choke off to see if that is what the problem is. But then again an auto choke is about $12.50 + the cost of new screws if I ever do get it off. A whole new carb is $25.00 so its like I may as well replace the whole thing if I have to.

It LOOKS like the auto choke is wired into the solenoid and then down to where it clips into something else but on the new carbs it looks like it just has one clip. Do I have to wire a new carb into the solenoid?

Its raining so I prob won't go out to turn it back another 1/4 turn until tomorrow. I'm going to also suck the tubes by the canister tomorrow too and see if that does anything.

I THINK I'm looking at ordering a new carb? Do you agree?

[straightbangin]

What do you think of this? Ever use one?

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There are 4 stripped screws in my life right now and seeing as how I own a power drill now maybe it would be wise to invest in this?

Even if i get a whole new carb I think I still want to drill out the screws so I can test the choke and see if that was what the problem WAS.

[Alleyoop]

Yes invest in the backouts, never know when later on you will need them.

And the choke should not be CONNECTED TO THE solenoid but who knows. But maybe you should just get the carb for 25. But you do know when you take the one that is on there you will FIND out where the choke is PLUGGED in(HEHE) because you will have to connect the new one.

And once you take the old choke off you can test Just by hooking it up to your battery and watching it as it gets hot and if it EXTENDs IT WAS GOOD):
Alleyoop

[straightbangin]

Thanks. Ya I'll def find where it plugs into when I replace it. I just ordered both on Ebay. Hopefully serenity is on its way! On the bright side having the old carb at home will let me practice taking it apart a carb to clean it. I think I now have more tools than the average woman

[gatekeeper]

Just got off work. Sorry to hear that you issue isn't solved yet. I'm betting there is some crud in the carb that is messing with the fuel flow. On the Bali I just bought, the previous owner was convinced it needed a new carb because even though it ran, it would leak gas from the carb when it was shut off. After hanging my head in agreement and paying a nice low price I took it home and opened up the carb. The bowl had bits of rubber in it from the fuel line. The float needle valve would not drop out on it's own, it was stuck open in place and I had to pull it out. Now the carb works as good as new.

Would cleaning your carb fix the issue? IMO, probably. Should you buy the new carb and install it? At that price, definitely. The experience you'll gain in maintaining your scooter will be worth way more than the cost of the carb. Once the new one is in place and everything is working as it should you can take the time to tear in to the old one then you'll have a spare and that never hurts. (Or if you can't bare to look at it anymore you can always send it to me! ;D)

As for the easyouts, I don't know if there is one small enough in that package to work on those enricher clip screws (the 1/8 inch one might) but they are something that is always handy to have around.

Would have chimed in sooner but the gates wouldn't work on autopilot today

[straightbangin]

Haha. Thanks for the info gatekeeper. Ya I'm hoping there is a small enough easy out one in the package for the enricher clip. I'll need it should I need to remove the rear/side faring too since they stripped the heads on the luggage rack at the dealership and it needs to be removed to remove the faring back there. I was thinking the same thing about having an extra carb around At least I have it on order w/ the easyouts . I'll prob replace it, then tinker w the old one, see what went wrong, clean it, if it seems okay I'll have a back up one which is good Good for practice, extra parts, or maybe a reinstall down the road

[eivad11]

it looks like i can interchange my 03 moskito with what u have in fairing parts straightbangin what light bulb do u have by chance

[straightbangin]

Cool. I have no idea what kind of light bulb I have. The scooter is only a few weeks old so I have never had to open it up to change a light bulb.

Here is a dumb question. Knowing that my scooter will sometimes work and sometimes not. If I want to risk driving it, knowing I may have to push it home, can I do damage to it by it cutting out (dieing) - possibly too much gas / broken choke etc.. I don't know if I should chance it to get places or if I should def just let it sit and wait until the order for new carb comes in. Thanks