Battery not charging with 11 pole setup!!! HELP!!! By jdmoto (Read 5,127 times)

[jdmoto]

Hello everyone ive held off posting for some time now because i taught i can figure it out myself. It seems that no matter what i do it wont charge the battery. So i any Guru can help that would great!
Here is the setup

Rectifier wires:
3 yellow = stator
red = charging battery? 14~16V idle
white = ? 10~20+ v as the revs go higher
green = ground

Battery:
New Lith Ion cell battery. fresh.

Setup:
Right now i have the headlight 1 35w (2.2amp) 12v headlight hooked up to battery (12v DC) via ignition switched.

Idle:
When the headlight is off I can see the battery charging slowly like .01v per 10 sec on idle. When i switch the headlights, the battery starts to drop a lot from 13v down the 12.80v and dropping during idle. When i shut off the headlight, the battery jumps back upto 13.04 and starts to charge again.

Rev:
When i rev the bike the battery is still dropping voltage with the headlight on, Slowly drops voltage like it did when it was idling . When the headlight is off the battery is slowly charging and doesn't climb fast enough as the rev go higher. just a consistent climb back up.

Riding:
Did about an hour riding and the battery started to drop lower than 13v. It just keeps on dropping and dropping. When i shut off the headlight it starts to charge again but slowly and doesn't jump back up (1.00V over idle voltage) like it should.


Question:

1. What does that white wire do on the rectifier? Autochoke?
2. Can hook up the red wire off the rectifier and just wire it directly to ) side of the battery with a 15 amp fuse? (the harness already has one but its not charging so im looking to bypass that one)


Any help would be great, I tried to get as detailed as i can.

Thanks
JD

[tvnacman]

1 is correct for the choke
2 is correct

The white wire is acv and can power your headlight . Wjat engine size , how many wires on the regulater. Is there a black wirr from the regulater ?
John

[jdmoto]

Aug 15, 2011 10:55:19 GMT -6 tvnacman said:

1 is correct for the choke
2 is correct

The white wire is acv and can power your headlight . Wjat engine size , how many wires on the regulater. Is there a black wirr from the regulater ?
John

150cc with 11 pole stator.

The rectifier/regulator has 6 wires. 3 yellow, red, green, white (i stated that above)

The headlight im using is only 12VDC based.

[tvnacman]

it will work on ac the headlight .
I would check the voltage on the red wire comming off the regulator with the engine running . rev it up and check . post your findings . You should be able to get 14.5 vdc or even 15vdc . I would also check the battery disconnected and see what the battery voltage is .

John

[Bashan]

I've seen lots of conflicting diagrams on the 11 coil set up but I have yet to see a six wire rectifier. This is one from Buggy Depot:

This one seems to make about as much sense as any of them. However, I have seen the white wire listed as AC. But one big flaw I can see that's occuring with your values is the white wire's voltage keeps increasing with RPM. That wire should be regulated and not escalating as the RPMs increase. Where did you find that R/R? Are you sure it's correct for that setup? In any event, yes, the red wire goes right to the battery and then you can run DC systems off of that.

Here's one from our library that shows the system hooked up to an HID system, again, you can see the seven wire rectifier:

And here's another variation without any voltage values but the seven wires on the R/R are evident;

Whether the white is AC or DC doesn't really matter as long as it's regulated to around 12v. It will run the autochoke and/or headlights with either type of current. So my feeling on this matter is that you got the wrong R/R. Rich

[capncrunch]

I just ordered the setup from buggy depot, should be here any day now...Im just a little confused by one thing on the diagram...what is an enricher? I don't know that I have this on my 150cc gym china made bike. Is this something that you need to make this work properly? If so, where do you get one?

[13lky2]

The enricher is the same thing as the autochoke module attached to the carb. Most GY6 scoots come with an autochoke/enricher.

[capncrunch]

gotcha!

[tvnacman]

are you charging!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

[sprocket]

Wish I was charging John.. by the hour

[tvnacman]

and what would you charge by the hour ?