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Post by gy6luver on Oct 15, 2011 22:27:31 GMT -6
ok so here is the situation everyone my sponsor provided me with a digital dash for the trip (which is now on hold) my original analog dash has the following features speedometer odometer (320 miles so far battery level fuel level digital clock in center cell phone light (bluetooth) the new dash has the following speedometer odometer with clock tachometer fuel gauge (center) on the old speedometer analog the fuel sending unit sent TWO wires to the back of the gauge yellow+white stripe FUEL SEND + blue+white stripe FUEL SEND SIGNAL GREEN wire went to ground there is a 9 wire molex plug on the factory harness there is a 9 wire molex connector on the digital dash I have repinned all of these the fuel gauge just blinks at 1 bar and does not register the fuel in tank i have attached a pinout i made by checking EVERY WIRE, anyone at all have any ideas or suggestions (my last resort will be to cannibalize the analog dash and remove the fuel gauge (separate unit) and mount it on my dash) anyone help!!!!!!!! Attachments:
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Post by royldoc on Oct 15, 2011 22:39:51 GMT -6
The fuel sensor is basically a variable resistor. different manufactures use different values. Use an ohm meter connected to the sensor wires and move the float up and down to determine the value of the resistance. Is your digital dash able to compensate for this?
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Post by gy6luver on Oct 15, 2011 22:40:55 GMT -6
roy
yes the digital dash has lines that would represent how much fuel is in the tank, the float and sensor both work fine!
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Post by royldoc on Oct 15, 2011 22:51:39 GMT -6
Does the digital dash have a menu to change and calibrate the sensor buy choosing from a list of values or inputting your own value. Should be some what like calibrating the speed.
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Post by gy6luver on Oct 15, 2011 22:55:24 GMT -6
Does the digital dash have a menu to change and calibrate the sensor buy choosing from a list of values or inputting your own value. Should be some what like calibrating the speed. Roy thisi s a chinese scooter lol, the box came with chinese writing on it and thats it, I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT A CALIBRATION screen however either it is not that complex or they are not telling. It has three buttons on it, H for hour M for minute and one to select between MPH and KMH thats all though i think your thinking to detailed, this is a wiring thing nothing more!
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Post by royldoc on Oct 15, 2011 23:05:52 GMT -6
My koso digital dash has two settings 100 oms and 500 oms. It can't be to complicated as there is only two wires coming off the sensor and doesn't really matter which way they are hooked up.
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Post by gy6luver on Oct 15, 2011 23:08:08 GMT -6
true except for the fact that no matter HOW they are hooked up the readout does not change
the yellow+white wire is the + power wire The blue+white wire is the signal wire
if you read the pinout i attached you will see there are no wires left on the speedo cluster to put these wires too
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Post by sprocket on Oct 16, 2011 10:53:14 GMT -6
Why go through the hassle of putting in a digital dash??? Anyhow you will need the sender unit designed for the digital dash...they don't swap analogue to digital.. I know I have tried it... Why not get a TrailTech Vipor and be done with it... trailtech.net/vapor.htmlThere are also phone apps that will do everything you need with GPS other than the fuel gauge
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Post by gy6luver on Oct 16, 2011 21:09:43 GMT -6
Why go through the hassle of putting in a digital dash??? Anyhow you will need the sender unit designed for the digital dash...they don't swap analogue to digital.. I know I have tried it... Why not get a TrailTech Vipor and be done with it... trailtech.net/vapor.htmlThere are also phone apps that will do everything you need with GPS other than the fuel gauge umm two reasons trailtech rips you off on the shipping of their products, and they are tiny and they suck lol besides that is NOT the answer, the answer is requiting intelligence, not buying something to avoid the issue i see way to much of that on scootdawg as it is!
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Post by royldoc on Oct 16, 2011 21:32:59 GMT -6
What kind of scooter is this? What is the model of dash. Maybe I can find a wiring schematic if I know what kind of scooter and dash these are.
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Post by gy6luver on Oct 16, 2011 21:50:38 GMT -6
What kind of scooter is this? What is the model of dash. Maybe I can find a wiring schematic if I know what kind of scooter and dash these are. Roy ' roy all ican give you is the model of the scooter, i know what all those wires do, as for the speedo well ok so the scoot is a 2011 Baja SC150 (sun city) the speedo is a well the box says forte motorcycle parts ( a search on the web turns up no such company) it says it goes to a vento Pantom 150 Name : digital speedometer Qty: 1 PC Batch No: YFAL2011-02 that all i got
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Post by sprocket on Oct 17, 2011 14:32:08 GMT -6
Good luck! You need a digital sending unit...
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Post by gy6luver on Oct 17, 2011 21:55:18 GMT -6
Good luck! You need a digital sending unit... as predicted lol sprocket chimes in with the answer, any idea where i might find one of those sprocket, and arent you the same sprocket that told someone on scootdawg that they would see no gains with new gears when in reality gains of 4-9 mph on the top end can be realized on a 150cc scooter? so your saying ventos all had digital sending units?
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Post by sprocket on Oct 18, 2011 9:51:39 GMT -6
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Post by gy6luver on Oct 18, 2011 12:08:01 GMT -6
i know but there is no way to track it down, turns out ALL VENTO units used the same sender as all other scooters, NO DIGITAL UNITS were made for scooters, those were for cars only, lol
with no idea which direction to go in this is pretty much at a standstill for now lol
ill update if by some miracle we get to a better idea of what happened, but its not # 1 right now on the list
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