150cc Roketa Sicily Electrial Issues By Zouri (Read 6,501 times)

[Zouri]

Hey all,
My scooter is a 150cc Roketa Sicily, she's been having some electrical issues...

When I turn the key, my gas gauge doesn't flip on, and I can't start her up via the key and starter button.

Things I know so far:

• I have 12.5 DCvolts across my battery terminals
  
• I have continuity across the fuse in-line with the battery terminals, and the fuse up near the gauge cluster
  
• I have continuity from the Negative terminal to the frame
  
• I can jump the scooter with a bar between the two starter terminals (Is this bad for it?)
  
• I do NOT hear a clicking sound when I push the starter button, no matter what position I have the killswitch in, key in, or brake pulled (i've tried all variations of this)
  
• I do NOT get brake lights or etc when I pull the brake lever, however when I jump across the starter terminals, I do get gauges, and lights.
  
• All of the connections seem good, everything is plugged in and snug, I tried looking over all of them to be sure.
  
• I am on the centerstand, but I don't have a kickstand killswitch anyway. (I don't wanna talk about how I know that. )
  

Not sure where to go from here... any suggestions? I would love to get her running again before Spring is over!

Edit: Added to the "Things I know" list.

[Zouri]

What would I do to check? I assume i could go from point to point on the line of power to the brake light, going from "checkpoint" to "checkpoint" but how would I check if it is functional? Continuity from negative terminal to that fuse, connector, etc?

[Bashan]

• The black wire off of the ignition switch provides power to the starter circuit when you turn on the key, refer to this diagram.
  
• You can see the starter button is energized from the brake light circuit which is dependent on the black wire for power. You are not getting power to that circuit when you turn on your key.
  
• By jumping the solenoid you simply bypass that circuit and make a direct connection from the red terminal on the battery through the starter. That is all the solenoid does anyway so your not hurting anything.
  
• I need you to do a couple things for me and then we can proceed. Turn on your key and see if the horn and turn signals work. Then see if any lights are coming on with the key and if so which ones.
  
• So you're saying while you're jumping the solenoid and the starter is cranking you can see the gas gauge and some lights working? Very odd.

[tvnacman]

when the key switch is in the on position and you jump the starter does the bike run , will it kick start also ? when or if it runs what electrical items work , and what still do not work ?

John

[Zouri]

Bashan, I
I won't get a chance to work on it until around 4:00 EST today, however as a pre-diagnosis I can tell you with 95% confidence that the horn, and turn signals do not work, as with any other lights, when I turn the key to on. Also, yes, while I am jumping the solenoid, all of the lights and dash items seem to work. The scooter turned on and stayed on at one point, before I turned it off (via the killswitch).

John,
Yes, the bike will run when I jump (in the scenario above), and I think it would kick start, but the kick starter is something else that I am working on right now, having a problem with it travelling back up after I kick, so I can't check that right now. When it's running it seems to be running as completely normal, lights, dash, turn signals, etc seem to function, but I can double check for 100% accuracy later today.

I'll update you two as soon as I can.

Thanks so much for your help so far!

[terrilee]

i am NOT a mech

its ur ignition switch

either bad or a wire messed up


am i correct ?

[Bashan]

I agree, bad ignition switch. Here's how you test it. Rich

[Zouri]

Okay, Ill plan on testing that today and getting back to you!

Thanks!

[terrilee]

WOW
EVEN THOUGH I DONT KNOW HOW TO FIX IT---LMSAO


someone actually said i was right about something mechanical







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[sprocket]

>>Spring is over!

Not here is Canada it hasn't even begun!

Sounds to me like a defective start switch

[kz1000st]

Nah, uh. It's the brake switch. Had a similar problem with a Honda.

I do NOT get brake lights or etc when I pull the brake lever, however when I jump across the starter terminals, I do get gauges, and lights.

As Rich said I'd be looking at either the brake switch or wiring in the handlebar area if the bike runs when he jumps the solenoid.

[sprocket]

Might be.. pull the other brake lever (right) and see if it works...

[Zouri]

Posting from my phone, so I hope my images come through.
So, I am trying to do the ignition switch testing you linked me to Rich, and am having a few issues. First, when I do the test with the switch off, I can't get my multimeter to register 0L, or beep... it just registers 000.... here is a picture of my multimeter with the setting I was using (should be the right one I thought..)


Secondly, my wiring seems to differ more than just from the wire colors.... my black, red, and green seem the same, however my killswitch wire (black/white) turns to brown, but it is not in the harness, it goes past it... here is a picture of my harness.


So, would the testing be any different? And am I using an incorrect setting on my multimeter to check for a complete circuit?

Sorry I suck with electrical stuff! Lol.
Thanks.

[Zouri]

Also, I just noticed something that may be of value... when I jump via the solenoid, my brake light is always on, my horn doesn't work, nor do my turn signals.

[sprocket]

You have the multimeter set on DIODE.. you need to set it to OHMs for resistance

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