Cloudy variator face By jonreed (Read 1,007 times)

[jonreed]

Got my Daix 150 Trike up on the work table yesterday and now the fun begins.
Got the CVT cover off and noticed right away that the recoil start housing does not sit flush to the cover. The recoil mechanism inside the housing is all chewed up on the inner face. The cage attached to the variator fan is bent (looks like a screwdriver was used to get the variator nut off w/o impact gun). Then noticed that several vanes on the fan are broken off (Previous owner at work again). I popped the variator nut off with the little 3/8" drive impact gun I picked up at lowes last week ($40 on clearance), it is only 200 ft/lbs but did a nice job on both variator and the clutch nuts.

upon examination of variator and fan I noticed that there is a 1/4" mirror finish band around the extreme outer edge of both. The rest of the faces are cloudy/opaque. Is this a normal condition?
I was going to replace the stock variator with a 115mm one, but now I guess I should replace the broken fan plate as well.
can I do away with the recoil housing/cage attached to variator? Is there a plate to replace the cover/housing or do I replace to whole CVT cover with a non-recoil cover?
The clutch pulley faces are clean almost mirror finish. Outer clutch housing had a bit of rust and some odd grooving inside. Clutch shoes have smooth (unglazed) surface, I figure those a good. No broken springs and otherwise smooth operation.
Should I replace the outer clutch housing or just smooth it down a with a scotchgard pad..?
Thanks
Jon

[tvnacman]

post a pic of what your talking about . I have the Koso 115mm variator and new outter half of the pulley .

John

[Alleyoop]

Hi Jon,
You can take the Recoil starer completely off, and do not even bother putting those two front bolts back on that also hold the front part of the pull start. Just leave it off and it will suck in more to cool off the cvt. The pull start is a joke anyway, if you every did get to use it, it would also loosen the nut on the variator. I took mine off completely after the first pull just to try it back in 2009(HAHA).

If you have 1/4 or more shine on the edge of the Variator you are loosing about some mph on your top end speed. And by all means get a 115mm Variator with the fan plate PM TVANCMAN He has a BANNER on the top of the PAGE the 115mm Variator he sells work great for low end and high speed I CAN ATTEST to it I have it on mine and have been running with it since last summer and it comes with whatever weight grams you want. I would recommend 12G weights.
The 150 Trikes run well with 11-12 gram weights.


The Clutch housing(BELL) just rough it up a little.
Alleyoop

[jonreed]

Got the new parts in from Tvnacman, 15 minutes later they are on the scooter and all buttoned up. First impression is: WOW... Scooter now starts moving around 2,700 rpm and topped out at just about 52mph (per GPS)/ speedometer reading just over 55mph. parts upgraded to were Koso teflon coated 115mm variator, 12g roller weights, new stock boss/sleeve, and new stock Fan plate. Next upgrade will be extractor exhaust and free flow muffler. Objective is an honest 55mph cruising speed.
On another note, currently negotiating on a 2007 JCL MP-250A 2 wheel scooter. Anyone know where I can find an Icebear trike complete rear assembly..?
Thanks again John

Jon Hathaway

[Alleyoop]

It is great to hear you got some MOJO going with the new parts. Few more tweaks and you will reach your goal.

A complete rear trike assembly are expensive from ICE BEAR they run around $400.00 bucks.

But I have to ask what is wrong with your rear end, they are easy to fix.
Alleyoop

[tvnacman]

I have mufflers , pod filters , BBK's , and true proformance CDI's .


John

[jonreed]

Nothing wrong with MY rear end, in fact my wife compliments me about it quite often... ;-)
I was thinking... If I end up buying this jcl 250 for say $800, it might be worth the effort to convert it to a trike. If I just flip the 250, I also have my eye on 2010 Icebear 300cc Trike a local consignment shop has for $2,995 (has 84 miles on it).

[Alleyoop]

Well you would also need the Trike Swing arm to mount the Axle. There is conversion kit that is actually the ICE BEARS setup and it does come with the swing arm, but it runs $1,000.00.
Alleyoop

www.tcscooters.com/trikes.htm

Here is for the 250s
www.tcscooters.com/250.htm

[royldoc]

Apr 8, 2013 20:35:54 GMT -6 jonreed said:

Nothing wrong with MY rear end, in fact my wife compliments me about it quite often... ;-)
I was thinking... If I end up buying this jcl 250 for say $800, it might be worth the effort to convert it to a trike. If I just flip the 250, I also have my eye on 2010 Icebear 300cc Trike a local consignment shop has for $2,995 (has 84 miles on it).

That is probably a good deal on that 300. I bought my 2010 magnum 300R in April of 2011, it only had 80 miles on it and I paid $2700 for it.

Roy

[davec]

Apr 8, 2013 23:01:44 GMT -6 Alleyoop said:

Well you would also need the Trike Swing arm to mount the Axle. There is conversion kit that is actually the ICE BEARS setup and it does come with the swing arm, but it runs $1,000.00.
Alleyoop

www.tcscooters.com/trikes.htm

Here is for the 250s
www.tcscooters.com/250.htm

There ya go, got me thinking again
If I had a CF Moto 250, and the kit, I could have another trike.
At a cost of less than what I paid for my Zodiac.
BUT, there is NOTHINHG out there that looks as good as the ZODIAC.
(Sorry Alley, not dissin your trike)

In fact, Jim called me, to tell me a guy from Pitt Pa wants to drive to Ohio to Look and sit on my trike.
Damn!! Guy must be serious.