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Post by dburna27 on Jan 31, 2014 16:16:44 GMT -6
Hey guys,
Its been almost 3 months since iv been here, I got a TaoTao 50cc' CY50 With VIP decals, It runs great!!! Everyone said id be lucky to get 38MPH from it. Well To my surprise i easily go 45 to 47MPH FULLY STOCK, Only thing diff on it is i put a New spark Plug an always run High Octane Gas.
Now to my question for all the VETERAN SCOOTER RIDERS ON HERE, What is the least expensive way to maybe add /get out a few more MPH from it.. Iv actually even hit 50mph on a good long stretch of road. But like all of guys we want FASTER!!
Now im sure i cant get 60 without a BBK, cause i'v heard 150cc go 60 to 65, not sure of that but i heard that..
So is there any suggestion , for me? what about adding some Performance parts? Nothing Major, Just some cheap stuff to change out the stock..
O btw If i change the breathers out to i Have to adjust the Carb? Thats new territoriality for me being a novice an not ready for all that on my own yet..
So CALLING ALL SCOOT VETS!! Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
SAFE SCOOTING TO ALL AND HOPE EVERYONE IS RIDING SAFE,HAVING FUN AND ENJOYING THE GOOD OL SCOOTER LIFE.. I KNW I AM..
O ONE LAST THING I decided to make a Scooter club, Instead of SOA-SONS OF ANARCHY, I suggested to my few buddys how about "THE SOB'S" =THE SONS OF BITCHES..LOL
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Post by kz1000st on Jan 31, 2014 16:30:25 GMT -6
If you're seeing 50 mph at all on a 50cc scooter A) you're doing too good to screw with it and B) probably have a secret 62cc engine. Seriously if you want more speed buy something bigger. A performance exhaust will only do so much for a 3 cubic inch engine as will goofing around with heavier rollers in your variator. Man, 45+, that's expensive Italian 50cc scooter territory.
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 31, 2014 17:51:03 GMT -6
you might want to try a pod filter , but you may need to set the mix richer or up jet .
John
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Post by twowheeler on Jan 31, 2014 18:31:23 GMT -6
SOmebody that barely gets 40 on theirs and is greatfull is going to walk up and kick you in the jimmy! LOL
I probably have a 63 cause I can hit 45 but.....50? Im calling BS patrol!
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Post by LUKE on Jan 31, 2014 18:42:12 GMT -6
word of caution: if you want to make your scooter to ran faster, improve on your clutch/torque spring and roller weights....DONOT ever ever get a BBK,or big bore kit...99.9999% of riders who used that stupet kit OVERHEATS their engine....not a good investment...stay away from the BBK..
that's all....
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Post by jct842 on Jan 31, 2014 21:39:25 GMT -6
It is highly unlikely you will get more speed messing with the cvt more than likely you will go slower. And for a change luke is right on the overheating and killing a good engine with a big bore. It can be done....only if every thing is perfect and your engine is as perfect as it should be. Get bigger scooter. You could quit with the high octane there is slightly more energy in 87 and your scooter was designed for high octane chinese fuel which is about the same as low octane 87 us fuel.
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Post by Alleyoop on Jan 31, 2014 22:24:02 GMT -6
I would question anyone toting over 40mph on a stock Tao-Tao 50cc. The specs on the Tao-Tao 50s are 30-35 depending on conditions. The Speedometers are in KM/H and just like others the speedos register much higher than the actual speeds with tires that are 10 and 12 inch. A scoot with 13" tires the speedos register pretty much on maybe a couple mph difference than actual speed. Alleyoop
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Post by dburna27 on Feb 2, 2014 20:38:13 GMT -6
Thanks for the replys, I just read that putting a round air filter on the carb gives it more air in return a little more speed, i know it would run cooler..
And To those saying im Lying ,What reason would i have to lie? I came here an gave the info and was looking for help guys, IM not a young dumb kid trolling.. I have no issue at all getting up to 45 to 47 and on a long stretch I max the needle all the way to the 50mph 2 times, Im not saying i can make it run 50mph every day, No not at all..
But I have not one issue getting it to 45 47mph. Im a pretty Light guy as well, dunno if that has anything to do with it.
But when i went and got the scooter tag from a atv store that sells them, of course it just says (scooter) I told the guy i was hitting 45 easy, and he said the same thing as another Poster about its very possible it could be more CC then what it claims, and that its not unheard of for the Tao Tao's coming from the factory or to sometimes do this..
I also thought the same thing as someone mention, maybe its just registering at 45 but not really going that Fast, So i had my buddy ride beside me in his car and sure enuff it did in fact run 47 MPH..
I have absolute nothing to gain by lying, again i came here looking for some advice, not people telling my im FOS.
Im not the type of Person to just claim something that is not true.. Its no need for it and makes no sense, To all of you who posted again thank u for the advice im very grateful.
If any one else reads this let me know what u think about the Air filter comment.. It was something i came across and read, so just wanted to know if it was true..
I read allot of PPL say that TAO TAO are worthless and not worth it, I paid $720 bucks for mine with free shipping back in NOV, and its run great~~!!! No problems or issues at all.. Iv only got about 600 miles on it. But when i get my Taxes back im thinking of just buying a 83 Yamaha in Mint condition, i forgot the name of it, but it only has 19k miles on it.. For 900 bucks.. Anyway Thnks guys..
And I came SOOO close to buying A BBK some of the research i did claimed the type i had was good for a BBK.. But if you guys have been running scooters years longer than me i will take your advice, I def dont wanna do anything to ruin its life span. Why do ppl bash on TAO TAO so much? I guess i just liked up and got a good one.
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Post by dburna27 on Feb 2, 2014 20:42:30 GMT -6
If you're seeing 50 mph at all on a 50cc scooter A) you're doing too good to screw with it and B) probably have a secret 62cc engine. Seriously if you want more speed buy something bigger. A performance exhaust will only do so much for a 3 cubic inch engine as will goofing around with heavier rollers in your variator. Man, 45+, that's expensive Italian 50cc scooter territory. Thats what a Small engine repair shop said as well to me.. Its gotta have more CC that claimed/posted on it.
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Post by dburna27 on Feb 2, 2014 20:52:39 GMT -6
SOmebody that barely gets 40 on theirs and is greatfull is going to walk up and kick you in the jimmy! LOL I probably have a 63 cause I can hit 45 but.....50? Im calling BS patrol! I have no reason to lie , What would i gain from it, i was just telling my experience, iv only hit 50mph 2 times, it had the mph needle burried in the other side.. Its was a long stretch of road, very long, Next time i go that way im gonna take my camera and take a Pic to prove that it did hit 50, or it said it was.. I never expected more than 35 to 38MPH, There is another guy with a TAO TAO just a different style and we raced for fun, and he topped out at 38 he said, and i got a good little bit ahead of him.. Im not a young kid just making lies to sound "cool" Its not the type person i am.. But like i said iv only got the MPH needle burried to the other side 2 times.. But no issues running 45 to 48mph at all.. Which im happy with but was just wondering if any small things could give it better performance. Even if it did not make it run faster.. Trust me I was SURPRISED AS HELL myself, but It is a quick little scoot! lol, I mean it doesn't take forever to get up to speed, it takes of nice an quick an gets it up to the speed i want it in no time.. If you guys feel im BS'N, well then thats OK, i know what im reading an running.. A small engine repair shop said ,clearly it has more CC than u bought, like u said he also said they normally run 35... Anyway happy riding everyone
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Post by twowheeler on Feb 2, 2014 20:52:58 GMT -6
Ive had Taos they are not junk. You need a GPS to gauge your true speed.
Beside the point... Your 50 is going fast enough. That bike and tires are not designed for those speeds and you are tempting fate and Im sure you dont have a tach and youre probably way over safe rpms as well.
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Post by dburna27 on Feb 2, 2014 20:54:58 GMT -6
I would question anyone toting over 40mph on a stock Tao-Tao 50cc. The specs on the Tao-Tao 50s are 30-35 depending on conditions. The Speedometers are in KM/H and just like others the speedos register much higher than the actual speeds with tires that are 10 and 12 inch. A scoot with 13" tires the speedos register pretty much on maybe a couple mph difference than actual speed. Alleyoop The speedometer i have also has under the km actual MPH..
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Post by dburna27 on Feb 2, 2014 20:57:32 GMT -6
Ive had Taos they are not junk. You need a GPS to gauge your true speed. Beside the point... Your 50 is going fast enough. That bike and tires are not designed for those speeds and you are tempting fate and Im sure you dont have a tach and youre probably way over safe rpms as well. it was only 2 times i got it this fast, the road i was on is somewhere i dont travel much, and i just decided to see if it would run any diff on a long road.. Iv had a car pull up beside me, Because i said myself I just dont think its correct readings, and sure enuff my buddy said yea your doing 45 rite now... I agree with the tempting fate, i normally only travel and cruse around town doing 40 or soo, i just like to cruise.. I thought about putting a GPS on it, but would u agree that its worth the money to add one? Also How many miles do you guys get from a Gallon on your scoots? I agree TAO TAO;s seem damn good
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Post by cyborg on Feb 2, 2014 21:02:22 GMT -6
if you are hitting 50mph do not change anything,,,,,,
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Post by dburna27 on Feb 2, 2014 21:04:22 GMT -6
if you are hitting 50mph do not change anything,,,,,, I have 2 times, NORMALLY i just run between 45 48mph.. How many miles do you guys get to a gallon? I dont get as many as i was led to believe i would
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