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Post by serpic0 on Jun 12, 2018 10:01:30 GMT -6
Thanks for the reply, so I should look to where the head lights get grounded?? as I pulled the front of the scooter off and didn't see anything out of the ordinary, I really thought it was in the handle bar switch took that apart nothin... in fact I broke it testing it so I had to order a new one, is it true that the headlights and tail lights run directly off the stator and not off the battery??
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Post by serpic0 on Jun 11, 2018 8:07:00 GMT -6
Ok so I started my scooter first time this season, I know I'm late anyway it's a 2009 Propel 250cc with the honda clone motor dc CDI, it was working fine when I put it away last year now the headlights are very dim not legal to drive, no tail lights, no instrument lights, I have horn, brake, and turn signal lights, also if I hit the passing switch the headlights light up full power and the blue highbeam lights up on the dash like its supposed to,cant fine anything that pulled out most be a short??, any Ideas?? also with this scoot headlights only come on with the engine running...
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Post by serpic0 on Jul 25, 2014 11:24:53 GMT -6
yeah for some reason it let me enlarge the type (too Big I know) but then I couldn't resize it
fix it sorry bout that.. Thanks Guitarman, I did read that post of yours before, what did you do for an Air filter?? I had one of those cone K&N chineese kind but when I tightened down the hose clamp it kept falling off so I used part of the old airbox and added a 2 piece foam filter you can see it in the photo, hopefully it works. and I am still wondering about the water line to the carb, hopefully someone can answer that question...
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Post by serpic0 on Jul 25, 2014 9:05:23 GMT -6
Ok so I got rid of the air box and the charcoal canister, I bought supposedly a PCV valve, see arrow #1, is this where it goes?? this hose connected to the air box before, Arrow #2 goes to a nipple on the bottom of the motor and it was just barely hanging on too short no hose clamp or nothing, so I got a longer hose and used a hose clamp on both ends, so now it is sealed, also I noticed that there is a hose that goes from the radiator fill neck to the carb and it has antifreeze/coolant in it, so I am assuming that is some kind of heat warming thing for the carb, do I need that?? should I block it off?? the coldest I ride this thing is like 45-50 degrees, cooler that that I use my car.
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Post by serpic0 on Jul 22, 2014 7:50:48 GMT -6
where did you buy them and what model/part number of bulbs are those you used?? thanks
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Post by serpic0 on Jul 16, 2014 15:30:06 GMT -6
Yep my cluster looks exactly like yours. thanks for the help!!
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Post by serpic0 on Jul 16, 2014 15:25:42 GMT -6
Thanks Ally that's what I was hoping for, I just didn't want to take it all apart for nothing, to bad you cant get at it from in front I tried that already, that would be too easy I guess...any ideas on what type of bulb would be in there?? I am guessing a push in type...
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Post by serpic0 on Jul 16, 2014 14:21:25 GMT -6
Ok I have a Propel 250 Ventura with the speedo tach/clock combo and the left blinker lite no longer works, right one works and both blinkers on the scooter work just not the one in the instrument cluster. I am hoping it is just a bulb, but before I tear this thing all apart does anyone know if it has a bulb that I can replace I found the whole unit on Ebay for $58.00, and it appears that It is a sealed unit. thanks for any help!!
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Post by serpic0 on May 29, 2014 9:32:31 GMT -6
Thanks Rich that's exactly what I did, the warm method not the cold one, so I am going to spend time with it tomorrow after work, maybe I have a vacuum leak, I was planning on taking all the emissions stuff off and get rid of the air box and go K&N style cone filter, re-jet carb and install my scrappydogscooters exhaust. I will let you guys know what I found out, thanks again for the help..Oh and I guess I will keep the Vacuum pump, I read somewhere that the briggs and Stratton pump is a better pump so I got one of those, but I am going to keep the one that came with the scooter for now, unless you guys have heard the same thing about the Briggs pump.
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Post by serpic0 on May 28, 2014 13:14:36 GMT -6
yep thanks that's what I did they are on the outside, I adjusted my other 2 scoots the same way they all have the same engine, personally I think these are great engines, but this one for now.. has me stumped.... Here's what I did: I pushed the adjuster back till I heard the ticking then I brought it back till the engine wanted to die then brought it back till the engine smoothed out and tightened the bolt down, do you need to adjust one before the other?? what am I doing wrong?? like I said maybe I have something else going on. thanks for the replys
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Post by serpic0 on May 28, 2014 12:04:21 GMT -6
nope I have a Honda clone not the Yamaha, so you don't use a feeler gauge to set them, the tutorial on here from Honda says to set them warm, I just re-Read it, I must have something else going on under there.....
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Post by serpic0 on May 28, 2014 10:54:18 GMT -6
Ok Guys so I worked on adjusting the valves for over an hour, not sure how long it is supposed to take but that's how long it took me and now this morning it wont start at all, and after cranking for a while and it didn't start I gave it some throttle and then I could smell gas so I know I am getting gas, now when you guys adjust the valves you are supposed to do it AFTER it is all warmed up right? guess I will go and look at the procedure again I must be doing something wrong, after adjusting them last night it ran really nice had nice pickup no backfireing, I don't get it, but I will I keep trying stuff till I get it running...
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Post by serpic0 on May 23, 2014 13:54:50 GMT -6
Ok I have adjusted the valves last year as per the recommendation's on here, maybe I have to do it over again then, but I figured it was running good after it starts, and I can go out there now and it will start right up, so your saying that the valves being out of adjustment will make it hard to cold start, and feel like it is running our of gas on deceleration?? we'll I'll reset the valves and report back thanks for the replys..
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Post by serpic0 on May 23, 2014 9:48:26 GMT -6
Well for one in the morning it is very hard to start have to grind away before it fires, after that it starts at the touch of the starter button, so I am thinking maybe I have a vacuum leak as the gas in the lines drain down at night so it takes awhile to get gas back up to the carb? and when I am traveling down the road say 45mph and coming up to a stop I back off the throttle and coast and at that point it feels like it wants to stall, like it has run out of gas, if I give it a little throttle it is fine so my guess is that when I let off of the throttle I lose vacuum and then I lose fuel, am I on the right track??, maybe this is normal for a fuel pump scoot as my other one never did this (no fuel pump),or maybe I need a vacuum canister to keep vacuum in the engine on deceleration, or like most things am I over thinking this?? thanks Ally for the reply..
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Post by serpic0 on May 22, 2014 23:04:02 GMT -6
Hey all:
Can someone tell me if it is beneficial to switch to an electric pump?? and if so what one are you using and how did you wire it up?? the reason I ask this is with the last scooter I had a Roketa Bali it had the gas tank under the seat so it didn't have a fuel pump, so when I backed off the throttle it didn't feel like it was going to die like it does now with this Propel that has a pump and fuel tank up front. I guess I could have a vacuum leak, but what do you guys think? thanks tl
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