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Post by rob63 on Mar 12, 2013 12:24:28 GMT -6
Once you`ve got the float bowl off there should be two jets visible. The main jet is the one which the needle sits in, and close to it should be the primary jet. Unscrew both and make sure they`re clear, also squirt some carb cleaner or similar through them and into any orifices you can see in the carb. Make sure the float bowl is clean, and hold the carb upright and move the float up and down with the tip of your finger. You should be able to check if the float valve is working ok.
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Post by rob63 on Mar 12, 2013 10:59:43 GMT -6
If it starts on cleaner then it`s a fuel problem, did you take the jets out of the carb and make sure they are clear ?
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Post by rob63 on Mar 12, 2013 10:57:21 GMT -6
From your other thread on this scoot....
Your battery is knackered, there is no magic fix for that other than to buy another battery.
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Post by rob63 on Mar 12, 2013 10:52:26 GMT -6
Took out the pilot today, soldered it up then re drilled to about 37/38, runs spot on now.
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Post by rob63 on Mar 11, 2013 13:58:36 GMT -6
Cheers Alley, it crossed my mind about the pilot, it had a 35 in and I took it out to 40. Just a bit too big I suspect. Thanks very much for your help
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Post by rob63 on Mar 11, 2013 13:10:32 GMT -6
This was a leaky inlet valve, ground the valve in and the thing goes like the clappers, lots of low down torque. Only problem I`m having is intermittent stalling. The thing can be sat idling nicely then die off, it also happens when I come in from a spin around the block and pull up to the workshop. I tinkered around with the idle screw and it seemed to work for a while but then went back to dying off again. I checked hoses for air leaks to no avail. Adjusted the mixture screw following the normal procedure but oddly the fastest idle using the screw is when the screw is wound right in. The more I wind it out, the worse the idling gets. Any thoughts gents ?
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Post by rob63 on Mar 10, 2013 9:10:45 GMT -6
Behind the fan cowling there is an alternator, this feeds voltage to the regulator/rectifier, which then feeds the battery.
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Post by rob63 on Mar 10, 2013 8:47:50 GMT -6
Sounds like the battery is knackered, even if it was sat on the scoot for five minutes it should be capable of giving three or more starts at least after having been fully charged.
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Post by rob63 on Mar 10, 2013 8:26:47 GMT -6
If you`re getting a spark when placing the plug against the valve cover then I would think that there is some earth connection between frame and engine somewhere. On most gy6 motors I`ve come across the earth lead bolts to the crankcase just above the fan cover. Out of curiosity what compression reading are you getting ? I`ve had a couple of brand new Chinese heads recently where the inlet valves were leaking, compression seemed to be there but when I popped the tool in the plug hole a low reading came up. Assuming that valve timing is correct and you`ve got a spark and correct plug fitted, then that only leaves fuel and air.
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Post by rob63 on Mar 10, 2013 8:13:43 GMT -6
Was it running ok before you laid it up ? My initial thoughts are that the battery may have a dead cell from sitting around doing nothing for 3 months. How long did you charge it for ? With a trickle charger like an optimizer it would probably need a good 6 hours. To check the charging you need a multimeter, connect the leads to each of the battery terminals and see what voltage you are getting whilst the scoot is running. At idle you should get about 12.5 volts, when revving it should increase gradually to about 14.5 volts. I wouldn`t worry about the spark plug colour for now if you`ve only had it idling with the odd rev up. It would definately need a run around the block to clear the cobwebs out.
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Post by rob63 on Mar 4, 2013 12:44:57 GMT -6
Finally got around to doing this bike today. Drilled out the jets but same problem. In an odd moment I popped one of the vacuum tubes off the inlet manifold and the thing ran sweet as a nut. Put my finger over the little tube on the manifold and it`s pumping instead of sucking. Did a comp test and showing low, checked valve gaps and they`re good. I suspect that I have a leaky inlet valve, hopefully have a look at it tomorrow.
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Post by rob63 on Feb 28, 2013 12:09:44 GMT -6
As far as I know, none of the small cc Syms have a kill switch. The CDI will be AC so have a look here scooterdoc.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=electrical&action=display&thread=4997The wire colours may be different but should be in the same position. You should be able to check if the cdi wire to the ignition coil is sending out a signal. If no luck then pop the seat pan out and try and trace the wires from the stator, there should be a multiplug with 3 yellow wires and 2 separate wires. These two separate wires are the ones concerning the feed to the cdi from the stator. If there`s no feed from at least one when the engine is spinning then it`s time to take off the fan cover on the right side and the flywheel, and examine the stator physically for broken or melted wires. It might be worth checking the ignition coil first as that`s easy to get to, make sure the plug cap is firmly attached to the lead and that the lead isn`t split near the coil, also check that the two spade terminals are firmly attached to the coil.
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Post by rob63 on Feb 26, 2013 16:30:34 GMT -6
Thanks for that Alley, I`ll have a look at the carb tommorrow
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Post by rob63 on Feb 26, 2013 14:43:00 GMT -6
We`ve got a Daelim Delfino 125 gy6 on the fleet at work which has been nothing but trouble. It came in recently having destroyed the top end. We had a redundant 180 big bore kit sat on the shelves, so rather than spend any more money on the bike than was necessary, I fitted the big bore barrel, head and piston assemblies. Cranked it over first time today and it was a bit reluctant to start, eventually went after giving it handfuls of throttle. It seems to run fine at maybe quarter to half throttle and over, but won`t idle. If I take the speed down to idle level it sounds like it`s 'chugging' before it cuts out, for want of a better description. I`m torn between the fact that I may be a tooth out on the valve timing even though it looks good on the markings, or that the carb needs the settings altering because of the big bore. Tried the mix screw to no avail, can`t raise the needle as the clip is fixed. Question is has anyone fitted a 180 kit without altering the carb/jetting, and had it running reasonably ok, before I try resetting the valve timing ?
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Post by rob63 on Jan 11, 2013 16:04:31 GMT -6
Lube a brake? The pivot/cam pin on the drum brake needs lubeing with copaslip or it will seize in it`s mount over time.
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