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Post by new2scootn on Sept 18, 2012 14:34:46 GMT -6
Hey Alleyoop, thanks for the suggestion but that aint' no vent hose. On the Sunny the fuel line attaches at the top of the tank and goes directly into the vacuum fuel pump and then to the carb. I had her all torn down so it was easy to see. A guy I work with says he has a chinese atv with a similar set up and he had to replace the pick up inside the tank on his.
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Post by new2scootn on Sept 17, 2012 23:05:07 GMT -6
I think maybe I spoke too soon about having 90 percent of the vibration out of my trike. Oh it's much better but still get some shakes around 60+. I took the front tires off the rims and scooped all that nasty pudding-like Ride-On tire sealer/balancer stuff out of the tires and then spin-balanced them. Both were out of balance. (I found out that I had put too much Ride-On in them and that too much can cause balance problems too). Rode her tonight and she's great up to almost 60 mph then still has some shakes in the front end. I am gonna put the recommended dose of 5 oz of Ride-On in each front tire in the hope it will smooth things out above 60. Just read the new comments from justincrediblem... you're lucky you spotted that rear tire wear before it blew out on you mid-ride--I'm sure that would ruin your day! You definitely shouldn't ride it until you get the new rear tire on. That rear tire must have really been out of balance to wear that badly on one side. And about the front end alignment... you definitely can't go just by the number of threads on the linkage. You need to take careful measurements (I used a straight edge along the outside edge of each front tire-once straight up and down and another front to back) from the top of each tire, as close as you can get to the bottom of each tire, and then again half way up front and back. All of these measurements should be dead on for best ride. I couldn't believe that mine was set right from the factory! Hope this helps ya get that thing back to smooth cruisin'. Oh yeah, remember I mentioned how I lost power and had to pull to the side of the road? Well it has happened several more times and I now know that she's gettin' starved for fuel. It only happens on prolonged near full throttle. I put a new fuel filter in and filled the tank and on the first ride after it didn't happen. But it happened again tonight(not as bad though) and she's down to half a tank. So I'm thinking it's either an improperly set carburetor float and she's literally runnin' dry, or possibly a problem with the pick up in the fuel tank.(I'd love to see inside that tank to see just how and where the pick up is. It's strange to have the fuel line connection to the tank at the tallest highest point instead of the lowest point so there's got to be some kind of line or tube inside leading to the lowest point.) As I get less fuel in tank I'm hoping to be able to figure out which is the problem.(sure don't feel like removing the fuel tank OR the carb if I don't have to.) And speaking of fuel, now my fuel gauge is reading empty most of the time so I followed Alleyoops suggestions and checked the float but it wasn't filling with gas and sinking. I checked for voltage and resistance and both seemed good. So I banged on the dash near the fuel gauge and shook the trike side to side and low and behold the gauge started to work again. I tried wiggling wires and playing with connections but I couldn't get it NOT to work after that-figures! Oh well, a headache for another day!
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Post by new2scootn on Sept 13, 2012 13:37:43 GMT -6
I am wondering if maybe it's the fuel. I am running regular 87 octane and she doesn't ping(regular burns faster and may be giving more power). I would try a tank of regular next fill up-worth a try.
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Post by new2scootn on Sept 12, 2012 22:38:08 GMT -6
Hey justincrediblem, just posted some info you might be interested in on general discussion/daddue11's cure for the blues thread. Made some tweaks and had a great ride with hardly any vibration. Hope it helps.
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Post by new2scootn on Sept 12, 2012 22:23:13 GMT -6
Thanks for the kind words daddue11. I just read your comments about the vibration you're getting and I may just have the answer! Made some more tweaks tonight and took her out and can honestly say that about 90 percent of vibration is gone! Had her up to 72 mph and about the worst the vibration got was a buzzing in the handlebars. As I mentioned to justincrediblem I added Ride On tire sealant to the front tires. I added all 8 oz of the motorcycle formula to each front tire.(NOTE: FOUND OUT THIS WAS TOO MUCH-PROPER DOSE IS 5 OZ FOR REGULAR AND 7 OZ FOR SEVERE). Before I added the stuff I would start getting a pretty bad vibration at about 56 mph. I would also get the front end dancing if I hit any kind of bump in the road at higher speeds. So to get this Ride On stuff to balance the wheels you need to ride at 55+ mph for approx 5 miles and it's supposed to "hydrodynamically balance" the wheels. So I took her out last night and the vibration above 55 mph was definitely improved but I had a new vibration at 48 to 50 mph! And the road I was on could sure use some work and ruts and bumps were still makin' the front end dance. I was pretty frustrated and it was getting late so I parked her in the garage, posted some stuff on Triker's Alley and went to bed. I kept thinking about how the front end dances and that it seemed like an oscillation that needed dampening. I sat in the garage and stared at that marvel of engineering of a tilting front suspension and looked for any loose bolts, linkages, shocks... yeah, the shocks! Look at that--they have adjustable preload--and they're set at minimum! Got the big Channellocks out, put the front end up on blocks to unload the suspension, and adjusted those suckers to the next to highest setting. What a difference! I rode on smoother roads tonight at higher speeds in hopes of getting that Ride On to really spread around in the tire and give me the best balance. But I still hit some bumps and now the suspension gobbles them up without being too harsh or starting to dance. I think I'm going to bump the preload up to it's maximum setting... hoping maybe that will get rid of slight remaining vibration. Oh yeah, I know you guys said you were getting pretty severe vibration if you backed off the throttle quickly... I ain't gettin' none of that! Really enjoyed the ride tonight-even took her to an empty mall parking lot to practice tight turns and counter-steering-good stuff. Hope this works for you too cause when she's runnin' right AND feelin' right... well you guys know, it's like therapy.
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Post by new2scootn on Sept 12, 2012 0:13:06 GMT -6
Taking the rear wheel off is not too bad if you have the needed metric tools. First you need to remove the muffler. The muffler is surprisingly heavy so remove the two long cap nuts securing the pipe to the engine first. Now remove the three bolts holding the muffler to the swing arm saving the top one for last so the muffler is supported. Remove the muffler then you can remove the two bolts holding the swing arm and the one bolt securing the brake line. Now you can remove the shock absorber bolt and secure the shock up and out of the way. The fun part now is to remove the axle nut. It's pretty tight so it helps to leave the tire on the ground with the weight of the trike on it or it's gonna want to spin as you try to remove the nut. Once you get the nut loose, put her back on the center stand and spin the nut off and remove the swing arm. Now the wheel will slide right off the axle shaft. Make sure to take note of the placement of all washers on the bolts you remove(caliper bolts have them and axle nut has one if I am remembering right). I took mine to a local cycle/scooter repair shop and had them spin balance it(dynamic balancing). I just added Ride On tire sealant(which is supposed to balance the wheels too) to the front tires. I rode her after and almost no vibration at 55 to 65 mph but kind of a shudder at 48. I might try adding a little more to each tire or I'll pull them off too and get them spin balanced. Oh yeah, and I think you'll like this... here's MY Sunny Roadrunner 300 and HER big brother(LOL!!) Hey, it's not a Raptor but it is a Ford! 2005 Ranger. She ain't no show truck but I'll bet she passes a lot more gas stations than that Raptor! I've been enjoying riding the trike to work the last couple of days and now have about 120 miles on her. Coming home from work today though she gave me a scare... I had just gotten up to speed(55 mph) and suddenly she lost power(like my motorcycle does when the gas is low and you need to switch to reserve). I just filled her up the evening before so I knew the tank was full. Well I just pulled her to the side of the road and started thinking about what story I was gonna tell my wife to get her to come pick my Chinese reverse trike scooter obsessed arse up and after a bit of prolonged cranking she started up and ran normally. No other incident the rest of the way home. Water in the gas? Crap in the carb? Who knows, but I had some Seafoam that I have been meaning to add to the fuel in the truck so I put some in her tank and took her out for an evening ride and she ran great. Well hope everyone is enjoying their trikes-I've got to get some shut eye.
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Post by new2scootn on Sept 11, 2012 12:51:30 GMT -6
Sorry haven't gotten back to you Justin and thanks Daddue11. Been busy with work and ridin' trike(got 90 miles on her!). Will post more info and pics tonight.
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Post by new2scootn on Sept 7, 2012 23:33:51 GMT -6
Thanks Alleyoop
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Post by new2scootn on Sept 7, 2012 23:06:10 GMT -6
Well a lot has happened in the past couple of days... Got the rear wheel balanced(took 3 and 3/4 oz of weights to balance that little wheel!) and now vibration is non existent. Had her up to 50 mph and smooth. If you guys still have vibration I think you should definitely have your rear wheel checked for balance. So finally it's time to get her body back on. I bolt the front end on and carefully hook up all the electrical connectors and am looking forward to taking her out for a spin around the block at night to check out the headlights and... no headlights! No high beam, no low beam, but every other light is working. So I figure probably some crappy bulbs and take the low beam out and it looks fine. I check for power at the connector-nothing. Then I check the "flash to pass" button and low and behold it works the high beam! Now I'm really puzzled and begin thinking that when I was fixing the tilt lock lever and had the handlebar switch apart that maybe I pinched a wire going back together. So I tear the handlebar headlight switch apart and remove all of the switches and test them-all switches work but no power to main headlight switch. So before wasting any more time I called Carl at Hotrodpocketbikes(where I bought her) and left a message that I needed some tech support. In mean time I printed out some wiring diagrams from this forum(good stuff) and to make a long story short, snipped the dead wire and refed it with the hot wire going to the flash to pass switch. Works perfectly and I didn't have to tear any wire harnesses apart. Carl got back to me today(he has always gotten back to me and was great all through the ordering process) so I'm sure he was relieved when I told him I got it fixed. Took her out tonight after dark and really like the headlights(she still doesn't have back end on so no brake lights). When I got back I figured I'd engage the tilt lock instead of using the center stand and man... I mean man, that tilt lock beeper is ultra annoying. Well no more, I found the module and pulled it out and put some electric tape around the open end(the beeper horn) and now you can barely hear the annoying beeper but you still get the visual dummy light flashing on the dash as a reminder(which you don't get if you just unplug the module). Here's some pics showing where it is-you should be able to get to it by just removing the windshield and the front cover--it's a lot easier to get at from behind the front cowl with the lower dash panels removed though. Hopefully should have her full bod back on tomorrow... but of course it's supposed to rain. Guess I could always get her registered and all legal though!
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Post by new2scootn on Sept 4, 2012 18:48:49 GMT -6
Thanks Alleyoop. Sorry about the pictures Daddue11. After I posted them I decided I didn't like the album they were in on Photobucket so I moved them and voila, they all went away. Finally figured out how to get them back so they are all there again. I kinda like her rugged naked look... And I agree, it's great that at least we three(with Sunny 300's) can share our findings and bounce ideas off each other. Hopefully others will join soon too. And to Justincrediblem... taking her body off was no picnic but wasn't too bad. Took pictures as I went and followed the Big Guy's recommendation and as each new body panel came off, all of the seemingly 1000's of screws went into their own little ziplock bag taped to the panel. So of course I have these panels carefully placed all over downstairs in the house and the wife... well I digress. I think I might eventually post these pics with little arrows showing where the hardware is and where the hardware you don't need to bother with is. That issue you mentioned about your body lock(I am assuming you mean the "tilt lock" so she'll stand on her own without using the center stand) doesn't surprise me. My cable pulled out of the actuator lever on the handlebar while I was "showin' her off" to an admirer so I had to quickly go to the center stand. When everything is working right you need to "feel" for this lock by starting to pull on the lever while slowly rocking the trike back and forth until the pin seats into the hole in the frame bracket-then you can pull the lever the rest of the way to fully engage the lock. If you start yankin' on the lever without the pin being lined up you"re asking for trouble and something's gonna have to give... in my case the cable pulled out of the retainer at the handlebar(I would say this is probably the weakest link). Luckily my cable didn't break(still had the crimp ball at the end) and I was able to fix it by using two small washers(cutting one side to spread and slip them around the cable) then seating them in the handlebar retainer. The adjustment of the cable is down by the pin and if the body is on you will have to remove the windshield and front panel underneath(which gives you access to other goodies as well-lights, electrical connections, the radiator cap(of all places to hide the radiator cap!). While you're in there check to make sure that none of the wiring is dangling in or near the tilt lock pin or switches(like it was on mine)-that's an electrical nightmare waiting to happen. Well I'm getting long winded here and I'll be posting more later about all the "challenges" I've faced so far. I will mention one more thing, and something all Roadrunner 300 owners should check. My trike leaked gasoline from two places-a pinhole in the fitting for the fuel line(leaked like a flippin' geyser when I first started crankin' her over). The second leak was real subtle-a very slight odor of gas in the garage that I just figured was from my gas can that I usually keep in the shed. Well I stumbled on a couple of wet spots on the black plastic undercover on the bottom of the trike and sure enough-gas. Then I looked up to see where it was coming from and couldn't believe that there is a drain bolt on the bottom of the fuel tank and it wasn't tight enough. If her body had been on I never would have seen this but you can access it without removing any panels. Guess that's enough for now-off to get rear wheel balanced tomorrow(hopefully the tire is not out of round!).
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Post by new2scootn on Sept 2, 2012 22:51:40 GMT -6
I thought that avatar picture looked familiar! Thanks for sharing info on your vibration and running issues. I'll be posting more once I finish prepping and get out on the road.
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Post by new2scootn on Sept 2, 2012 21:17:58 GMT -6
Nice rides! Hey, is that your trike on the Extreme Scooters site? Just got one myself and still gettin' her prepped. Did you stick with stock tires and do you have any vibration? I am sure glad that I pulled the body off and went over everything closely cause I found quite a few issues that would have turned bad if overlooked. Curious to know how your're making out with yours. Have fun with your toys!
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Post by new2scootn on Sept 2, 2012 19:49:17 GMT -6
Well here's what a MC_D300TKB reverse trike looks like without her pretty body... and yes, I did ride her like this! Sorry the pics went away for a while... remind me not to move pics to different albums on photobucket ever again! There's a lot of vibration from the rear wheel spinnin' her up on the center stand so I guess I'll be pulling it off and getting it balanced... One more thing to do before getting her bod back on and getting out on the road!
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Post by new2scootn on Aug 31, 2012 14:54:43 GMT -6
Well I got my Sunny Roadrunner 300 and disrobed her of her body to do my Big Guy PDI. Still have some more work to do. Rode her once for about 5 minutes in the dark with no lights(not smart). I'll be posting pictures as soon as I figure that out and find some time. I'll share my experience and findings-good and bad(more good so far) soon too. Thanks to everyone on this forum for their information which has been invaluable so far(owner's manual is so bad it's funny). ;D
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Post by new2scootn on Jul 29, 2012 10:52:42 GMT -6
I am brand new to this forum and soon to be brand new to the world of trike scooters(never thought I'd be buyin' a scooter). This reply is to daddue11-I have been following your comments on your Sunny MC-D300TKB trike and have purchased one myself and should be getting it soon. I love to tinker with mechanical stuff so hopefully between you and the rest of this forum we can figure out how to make(and keep) this trike fun. Question about your alignment issues: are they saying something is bending, or are adjustment linkages loosening? Just curious. Will post more when three-wheeler arrives.
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