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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 19:18:08 GMT -6
You beat me to it (HAHA. the GREEN and white attached to the start button should be grounded so that when you press the start button it also grounds the solenoid.  |
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 19:00:45 GMT -6
I'll check again, because I just grounded the red/yellow wire and it DID activate the solenoid so, there must be something wrong in my following directions. GREAT!! that means the SOLENOID is good and the problem is by the PUSH START BUTTON and or the wire going to the SOLENOID from the start button to ground the SOLENOID like you did manually. |
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 18:54:42 GMT -6
HUH!! are you saying that the START BUTTON is GROUNDING THE SOLENOID even before you push it?
Well if voltage is getting to the solenoid and it is being grounded THEN THE SOLENOID IS BAD. I wanted you to make sure about the ground so you would not have to spend money on a new SOLENOID. But it appears the SOLENOID is bad (BUMMER).
But at least by jumping it we can work on starting the motor and once started adjusting fuel delivery and what not before the SOLENOID arrives.
Alleyoop
P.S
Since the scoot has been sitting for so long the carbs fuel passages and PILOT JET are most likely clogged with gas residue and that means the CARB will need to be cleaned out and passages and jets cleared.
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 18:29:11 GMT -6
So it worked when you jumped the SOLENOID.
Now if the above what I wrote all checks out you can rig a ground wire to the RED YELLOW at the SOLENOID squeeze the brake and just touch the other end of the wire to GROUND and see if it activates the SOLENOID if it does not and it only works when you jump it then THE SOLENOID IS BAD.
IF IT ACTIVATES the solenoid when you ground it then the problem is up by the switch.
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 18:13:13 GMT -6
Sorry I was out to DINNER(SALAD, BBQ RIBS, BAKED POTATO and some Greens) YUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMY BURP!!
OK, squeeze the brakes and tape it then go to the SOLENOID and with your 12v light tester PROBE the GREEn and YELLOW wire going the SOLENOID-- IT SHOULD HAVE VOLTAGE. If it does then the only thing would be the RED AND YELLOW(GROUND WIRE FROM THE START BUTTON) so you can check for continuity while pressing the START BUTTON. The start button should be grounded(usually green wire) then when you push it it makes contact with the RED YELLOW TO GROUND THE SOLENOID.
Alleyoop
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 16:50:56 GMT -6
The CDI should look like this:  That round covered piece looks like the COIL, and the wire looks like yellow and black if so you should see a THICK WIRE GOING TO THE SPARK PLUG. |
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 14:34:00 GMT -6
You should get a 12volt light tester to check wires that should have voltage they are cheap and makes checks fast and easy. You can find them at any hardware store or lowes home depot etc.. Alleyoop  |
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 14:12:58 GMT -6
The clicking is your solenoid and normally if it clicks the solenoid is bad. Alleyoop  While you wait for a new Solenoid to arrive you can start your scoot by jumping the SOLENOID. Turn the KEY ON and using a Screwdriver touch both terminals on the SOLENOID. Here is how to do it: |
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 14:09:13 GMT -6
Yes the fan pulley does make a nasty metal sound when the nut comes loose.
Alleyoop
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 23, 2016 12:15:21 GMT -6
If no response when jumping the SOLENOID ONLY SEVERAL THINGS IT CAN BE:
What your doing is simply touching the SOLENOID terminal that has the 12volts wire connected to the battery and passing that 12volts to the other TERMINAL which the wire is connected to the STARTER SO IF NADA only a few things could be wrong or bad.
1. The THICK RED WIRE FROM POSITIVE POST of the battery is not connected to 1 of the terminals on the SOLENOID.
2. The Wire on the OTHER SOLENOID TERMINAL is not connect to the starter.
3. The Battery is DEAD
4. The Starter is DEAD
5. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GROUND WIRE FROM THE MOTOR TO THE FRAME(put a wire on one of the VALVE COVERS) then connect to FRAME.
6. The NEGATIVE post on battery also goes to FRAME.
THE START BUTTON all that does is MAKES GROUND and it grounds the SOLENOID so no juice should be there.
The Killswitch (WHICHEVER SWITCH HAS A BLACK AND WHITE WIRE IS YOUR KILLSWITCH).
Do you see a BLACK AND WHITE WIRE that is the KILLWIRE and it goes to the TOP slot on the 2 plug of the CDI. Also check the swivel switch that you said it was red at one time or another for a BLACK AND WHITE wire.
If on the right hand grip the switch system is ONE SWIVEL ON TOP, ONE in the MIDDLE and ONE low.
The Top SWIVEL would be your KILLSWITCH the MIDDLE for SOME LIGHTS and the LOW is your START BUTTON.
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 22, 2016 21:47:27 GMT -6
Yes it does THANK YOU, you do not get many thanks around here if what you told them worked they just go away and ride into the sunset   |
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Kickstart
by: Alleyoop - Feb 22, 2016 21:42:28 GMT -6
Post by Alleyoop on Feb 22, 2016 21:42:28 GMT -6
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 22, 2016 21:10:31 GMT -6
Not needed just like to help folks out get them up and running and riding and enjoying the outdoors   |
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 22, 2016 21:01:53 GMT -6
Here is your partner in crime jumping the SOLENOID (ROSIEMOTO)
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 22, 2016 20:57:27 GMT -6
Good that means you have voltage going to the key and the key is working. So that means the fuse is good. Make sure the kill switch is on the run position also some have a killswitchh on the sidestand make sure the side stand is up.
Make sure the SOLENOID is plugged into the other plug that has a green and yellow and a red and yellow. TURN the key on and TEST THE GREEN AND YELLOW WIRE for voltage WITH THE BRAKES SQUEEZED TAPE THE BRAKE.
One thing you can do is turn the key on and JUMP the SOLENOID and see if it wants to start. IF it fires at least ONCE then we will know the KILLSWICH IS NOT GROUNDING IT OUT.
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..BAD TO THE BONE..
