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Post by heruk on Oct 21, 2014 10:56:32 GMT -6
bike is running good now Id like to thank you all Ill take a video in a few. after adjusting the fuel/air ratio screw, running it a couple of times for 10 min then not being able get it to start, I adjusted the valves since it made sense that heat and pressure would push the head up. This bike really is an educational adventure! Should I plug the mixture screw back up?
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 21, 2014 11:20:26 GMT -6
GOOD JOB good to hear it is now running MAN that was a saga there for a while No do not plug the mixture screw back up, you will need to adjust as TEMPERATURE changes tweaking it a little. IN COLD weather the Motors need a little more fuel and in HOT WEATHER they need less fuel so you will be tweaking it about 1 full turn clockwise in the HOT Summer and 1 full turn Counter Clockwise when temps get 60 and below. Alleyoop
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Post by heruk on Oct 21, 2014 11:30:50 GMT -6
are these the right size? link
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 21, 2014 11:50:12 GMT -6
Just about all your bolts on the motor holding the halfs together and the cvt bolts are 8mm. Alleyoop
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Post by heruk on Oct 21, 2014 17:20:54 GMT -6
the bike started giving trouble again so i decided to adjust the valves. when i tightened the head cover i seem to have stripped the tread on one of the bolts.............
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Post by Bashan on Oct 21, 2014 18:32:54 GMT -6
I hope you mean the valve cover or we need to start a new thread. Otherwise you can tap it out or see how it does with three bolts. You are allowed to swear now, just for a bit.
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Post by heruk on Oct 21, 2014 18:55:49 GMT -6
O ive sworn all the necessary swearing thanks. So some people have gotten away with 3 bolts? i thought that might not be possible since I was having compression issues. I think it is actually the cylinder head bolt hole that striped
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 21, 2014 19:28:48 GMT -6
Big difference BRO, 1. You have 4 VALVE COVER bolts that covers the valve assembly: 2. You have 2 JUG bolts on the right side 3. You have 4 NUTS that hold the ROCKER ARM assembly. So which one stripped? 1. The valve cover bolt #1? Which if so you may leak some oil from the cover. 2. The two Jug bolts #2? 3. The 4 nuts that hold the Rocker arm assembly and cam hold down. Alleyoop
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Post by heruk on Oct 21, 2014 20:02:06 GMT -6
valve cover bolt
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 21, 2014 20:14:44 GMT -6
Not a big deal Those bolts you just tighten them SNUG not tight if you notice there is a O-RING all round the cover to seal so oil does not leak out. Alleyoop
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Post by heruk on Oct 22, 2014 11:41:54 GMT -6
i turned the fuel mixture screw from 2 1/2 turns to 2 turns and is still somewhat tricky to start. although I haven't tried to start it since i stripped the bolt hole(because it started too screwing rain and has been raining ever since)I am wondering if turning it more towards the closed direction would help
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Post by heruk on Oct 22, 2014 14:09:12 GMT -6
adjusted it to 2 1/2 turns and it wont start then to 3 turns wont start
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Post by heruk on Oct 22, 2014 18:46:36 GMT -6
finally walked it home from about mile away and almost got it started but dont want to disturb the neighbors. reset the f/a r screw to 2 1/2 and then to 3 turns and re adjusted the idle from about 2 1/2 to about 1 turn and it is almost starting.
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 22, 2014 19:05:31 GMT -6
You got it all messed up. In order for the motors to start easy the IDLE SPEED screw has to be set good as well as the fuel mixture. The IDLE SPEED screw OPENS and CLOSES the BUTTERFLY. I don't know how Knowledgable you are about carbs but BY the butterfly there are tiny FUEL OUTLET holes. Depending on much you turned the IDLE SPEED SCREW the more AIR is allowed to come in and more fuel. Now more fuel is also dependant on the Fuel Mixture screw so you have to have BOTH of those adjusted right in order for the motors to start easy or hard to start. The IDLE SPEED SCREW to open and the Fuel mixute to LEAN then the problem will be TO MUCH AIR AND NOT enough fuel.
So The IDLE ONCE the motor is warmed up SHOULD be from 1500-1800 RPMS and the REAR WHEEL NOT SPINNING. You are jumping from one to the other and over adjusting the carb and idle speed screw.
1. Get it to start and let it warm up and the idle SHOULD NOT BE ABOVE 2000 rpms or BELOW 1500 RPMS. 2. THEN adjust the FUEL RATIO MIXTURE to get the HIGHEST IDLE JUST USING THE FUEL MIXTURE SCREW. 3. AFTER YOU get the highest idle out of the Fuel Mixture screw THEN YOU can adjust the IDLE down USING THE IDLE SPEED SCREW to 1500-1800 where ever it idles the smoothest.
After that is done the it will just be MAYBE A TWEAK HERE AND THERE BUT NOTHING major.
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Post by heruk on Oct 22, 2014 20:16:13 GMT -6
I see so I should set the Fuel air ratio screw and the idle screw back to 2 1/2 turns then try and get it to start, warm it up and set the idle to between 1500-2000rpms THEN adjust the FUEL RATIO MIXTURE to get the HIGHEST IDLE JUST USING THE FUEL MIXTURE SCREW. AFTER YOU get the highest idle out of the Fuel Mixture screw THEN YOU can adjust the IDLE down USING THE IDLE SPEED SCREW to 1500-1800 where ever it idles the smoothest. got ya
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