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Post by heruk on Oct 2, 2014 10:30:54 GMT -6
Hi
My bike has been hard to start for even and i assumed it was the battery. I've put off buying a new battery since I got the bike and decided I get one from a local store. They tested my battery and found that nothing was wrong with it. So I decided to test the solenoid by shorting it in order to see if the bike would turn over, it did.
This is supposed to mean that the ignition switch is bad?
Or that there is a faulty wire or connection between the solenoid and the ignition switch?
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 2, 2014 11:01:42 GMT -6
OK when you turn the key on and squeeze the brake handle do your stoplights come on(TRY BOTH BRAKES) either brake should send voltage to the Solenoid. If the brake lights come on that should send voltage to the SOLENOID then when you PRESS the Start Button it GROUNDS the SOLENOID and completes the circuit and sends 12volts to the starter. You can test if voltage is getting to the Solenoid and if pushing the start button is grounding it. IF SO then the SOLENOID is bad if you jumped it and it spun the starter. Alleyoop  |
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Post by heruk on Oct 2, 2014 14:37:48 GMT -6
Thanks Alley
By test do you mean pressing the brake while the key is in the on position? If so, my brakes do light up.
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Post by heruk on Oct 2, 2014 14:45:11 GMT -6
o ok,
you are saying that my solenoid is bad because it sent voltage to the starter when jumped?
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 2, 2014 14:54:39 GMT -6
That is what I think the problem is. The solenoid is bad if it is plugged in and getting voltage when you squeeze the brakes and grounded out when you push the start button.
To test it you test the wires going into the Solenoid, the RED AND YELLOW is the ground from the start button the YELLOW AND GREEN is live voltaage from your brake switch. So You can tape the brake on and test with a multi meter the wires at the SOLENOID PLUG.
Alleyoop
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Post by cyborg on Oct 2, 2014 16:56:29 GMT -6
Alley is on it,,, this is my assumption as well,,,, bad solenoid
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Post by heruk on Oct 3, 2014 18:51:23 GMT -6
just rolled out for a multi meter and it began to rain
Thanks
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 3, 2014 19:13:02 GMT -6
For testing wires if voltage is present get a 12v light tester they are very handy and easy and quick to use to test wires for voltage, On the scoots they come in handy and are only a couple of bucks. Alleyoop  |
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Post by Bashan on Oct 3, 2014 19:13:49 GMT -6
Here's some illustrations about what Alley is talking about.
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Post by heruk on Oct 4, 2014 18:26:17 GMT -6
My solenoid doesn't have that activation switch wire
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Post by Bashan on Oct 4, 2014 18:43:47 GMT -6
Well what does it have? A solenoid is a relay so it will have four wires. The two that connect the battery to the starter and the two that activate the armature that closes the starter circuit:
Your wire colors may not be the same but there are two big wires and two small wires in a scooter solenoid. The two small ones run from the brake light circuit through the solenoid and then to the starter button. An atypical design is always possible so post a picture. Rich
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Post by heruk on Oct 4, 2014 22:45:02 GMT -6
cool thanks
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Post by heruk on Oct 10, 2014 12:15:27 GMT -6
ok so my solenoid was turn in the opposite direction and i didnt see the other wire.....
Blew my new multimeter fuse on first use...
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Post by Bashan on Oct 10, 2014 13:00:45 GMT -6
1. Turn on the key
2. Pull in the brake and make sure the brake light comes on
3. Take the black cable off of the solenoid
4. Pull in the brake and hit the starter button, if the solenoid clicks it's engaging
5. Reattach the black cable
6. Try to start it normally, if it won't turn, jump the solenoid
7. If it starts the solenoid is engaging but not passing current = bad solenoid
8. What did you test to roast your multimeter?
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Post by Alleyoop on Oct 10, 2014 14:08:07 GMT -6
Just get a new solenoid your solenoid is bad PERIOD. Don't need to do any more testing.
Alleyoop
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..BAD TO THE BONE..
