Help please. Voltage to everything's nothing working. By boxedfamily (Read 1,793 times)

[boxedfamily]

Hello, I'm a new member and I purched a komoto 250cc scooter yesterday. They guy who sold it to me told me there's an electrical problem and he's not really good with wires and couldn't figure it out. 150$ I couldn't pass it up. . I'm thinking no big deal it's probaly something simple like a solenoid relay or a fuse. Well that where I started. Everything checks out good all the grounds have continuity throughout the entire bike. There's power going to Everything but nothing will turn on. No lights, no nothing, blank. I read a thread from today about jumping the wires for the alarm system and thought for sure that would solve the problem yet still nothing. (Jumped the pink and gray wire)

I jumped the solenoid and the Motor turns over. - still ordered a new one just incase.

Tested the spark plug no spark. - ordered the cdi, and ignition wire and new plug. Will have them Monday.

Also replaced all 2 of the fuses.

I could really use some guidance with this one I'm out of ideas other than a new wire harness.

Is there away to test the ignition key to make sure that correctly working. I tested the wire conector going in and it has power, it's also grounded correctly.

[cyborg]

You stated you have power going to everything,,if this is true you have a ground issue,,,

[boxedfamily]

cyborg I checked all the ground wires and there are no breaks. I'll have to check again. Alleyoop I read you response to a guy having what sounded like the same problem almost. I jumped the wires like you had suggested in the thread I got nothing. You have any other ideals? Please and thank you.

[cyborg]

Check the kill switch,,, put a meter on the feed and the load side ,,, also you need to pull the brake to lite it

[boxedfamily]

cyborg The kill switch has been checked. I also disconnected it and tried, nothing. I have both brakes zip tied until I get this figured out. Thinking that is one thing I haven't checked is the micro switches for the brakes.

[cyborg]

a good thought,,,,it's a long shot ,,with the key on when you jumped the solenoid it would have lit,,,the brake switches just interupt the starter not the ingnition,,,could be a bad plug,,,had one on a yamaha chappy i was working on for a guy,,,new plug it lit right up,,,go to an auto parts store and get a plug,,,so let me get this straight when you turn the bike on and hit the starter button it turns over or you just get nothing?,,,

[boxedfamily]

The only time I get the bike to turn over is if I jump with solienod with a screw driver. With the key in I get nothing. No lights no sounds when I turn the key. cyborg

[cyborg]

something is wrong with the alarm system,,,is the module still in place or was it removed?,,,we had a similar problem with another member a jumper or two and it's running now ,,,,i think you have the same problem,,,get the color codes off of the cdi and coil and solenoid i think you will find these same codes at the plug for the alarm module

[boxedfamily]

May 9, 2015 9:05:47 GMT -6 cyborg said:

something is wrong with the alarm system,,,is the module still in place or was it removed?,,,we had a similar problem with another member a jumper or two and it's running now ,,,,i think you have the same problem,,,get the color codes off of the cdi and coil and solenoid i think you will find these same codes at the plug for the alarm module

Ok, I'll have to check it out a little later today. I tried jumping the pink and gray wire with no results. Might have done the wrong ones.

The cdi- green. Red. Yellow/black in the large connection and just a Black wire in the small connection.

The solienod is a yellow/green and a yellow/red.

I haven't got a picture of the coil on my phone for reference but will look later today.
The wires to the alarm I don't have a picture of either for reference I'll have to get back later.

[tvnacman]

check for connections not tight or with poor crimps.

John

[cyborg]

i take it you didn't get the alarm remote with the scoot

[boxedfamily]

I've got two sets of keys and two alarm fobs. I press them nothing happened.
i also noticed on the alarm module it self there's a red sticker that reads. " no battery ignition. Have not connect accumulator. Employ for forbidden this product" does that make since to anyone.

The wires from the module on the bike side at connection are
Red/white. Green. Red. Pink. Yellow/red. Orange. Blue. And black. cyborg

[cyborg]

replace the batteries in the remotes,,,bet you $20 it lites

[boxedfamily]

Ok I'll give that a try. And let you know how it goes.

[Alleyoop]

Ok, If your 2 plug on the CDI has only one wire on the bottom then it is a DC CDI which is fed 12volts WHEN THE KEY IS TURNED ON. Now let me ask what motor is in there the HELIX 244c or the LINAHI 257cc?

The Linahi will have one 20A fuse by the starter relay and another 15A fuse by the battery, the HELIX will have a fuse box.

So if nothing is getting power then what you want to check is the IGNITION KEY IT SHOULD be getting a constant 12volts. Then when you turn the key on it should make contact usually with a black wire that then pass's the 12volts to other things usually to a PLUG that then passes the 12volts to other
things. On the helix the BLACK wire feeds the FUSE BOX.
Alleyoop