Schwinn 2009 Valo150 starting problem By easloan2017 (Read 4,568 times)

[easloan2017]

Hello all. I'm new here and hope someone can help out with a scooter problem. My wife and I bought a used 2009 Schwinn Valo150 scooter on Craigslist with only 1100 miles on it. We rode it without any problems for 600 miles over the course of several months. Then one day after riding about 30 miles it stalled and I can't get it running.

I currently have a mechanic working on it at a scooter dealership here in Central Fl, but he is having problems with it also. He is to a point where he has spark, fuel, and compression, but it still won't start. He said that he doesn't see any Schwinn scooters come through his shop so he has to do some more detective work on this model to see what is going on.

He changed out the stator, cdi unit, carb, and I had replaced the fuel pump and filter. Battery is fully charged also. He now believes that it could be the ignition relay which has part #294859, FYM, F704-12, 080101, Made in Italy stamped on it.  I'm stuck as to where can I get this replacement part or one that can be swapped out in place of this specific brand. I see only a few outdated, foreign ebay ads and nothing else online.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed

[cyborg]

Could be valves need adjusting

[easloan]

Good morning. Thanks for the reply.

The mechanic told me that he did a compression test and it was very good. He gave me a test number, but I don't remember what that is. He said that a valve issue was not a concern with the results of that test being good. He believes it is the relay that I mentioned in my original post. Problem is that the company that manufactured that part, Piaggio, in Italy, doesn't supply that any longer. I'm now working on identifying the specifics of that relay and looking for a compatible replacement part. I spoke to someone last night and they said, "a relay, is a relay, is a relay....." He said to take it to an electronics part supplier and see what they may have. I'm also calling around to other scooter/motorcycle dealers.

This is a classic example of "buyer beware." I had no idea that the Schwinn name was sold over the years and that this scooter was going to be so hard to find parts for. Let alone any info. on it at all.

If you have any other insight into getting a replacement part please feel free to shed some light my way. My wife and I aren't giving up on this. The scooter is in great shape, except for the fact that it doesn't run :-(


Thanks, Ed 

[richardv]

Can't help with this issue but, the Schwinn name has been on low quality bicycles, made in China, for many years.

[easloan2017]

Hello all. Here is a picture of the relay that I'm trying to find a replacement for. The original manufacturer, Piaggio, no longer supplies it and won't give me any specs on it, volts, amps, etc. My Schwinn Valo 150cc is down until I can find this part. Any ideas anyone? Thanks, Ed

[path1976]

Do you have a wiring diagram for the scooter? Or a way to trace where the wires go? It shouldn't be too hard to wire in a standard 4 pin relay to replace that one.

Relays are nothing more then an over glorified switch, you have a low amp positive coming from your starter switch, a ground, and then the high amp wire from the battery and the wire going to your starter. Most aftermarket relays have the pin outs printed on top of the relay, so you just need to know your wiring on the bike.

10 or 15 bucks in parts and 20 minutes of time should have you up and running again.

[easloan2017]

Thanks for that response. I don't have a wiring diagram. I am going to trace the wires today and follow up with your thoughts. I appreciate you shedding some light on this concern for me. I will post a follow up to my progress. Thanks, Ed

[easloan2017]

Well, I unwrapped all the electric wire harnesses and also found, online, an electrical drawing from another Schwinn scooter that matches my Valo 150cc. I traced and identified all the components against the drawing. I now get it! :-)

The part that my mechanic said may be bad is noted on the drawing as a choke control module. It is tied to the ignition switch, magneto, CDI, electric choke, and ground.

Anyone have any info they can give on the possibility of replacing this part if it is indeed faulty? I've attached a photo of the module on my scooter and the electrical drawing. Thanks again, Ed

[easloan2017]

gekgo.com/images/Grad%20150%20wiring%20diagram(1).jpg

[cyborg]

Pop the cover off the relay,,, sometimes the contacts inside like weld themselves together and they won't open,,, if they are frozen gently pry then apart and polish the contacts with emery paper,,, I've gotten quite a few more years service from them

[elcamino121]

Your electric choke looks like a common enricher, which some people eliminate, as they fail frequently. Some replace it with a manual choke.

Do a search about fuel enricher, there are lots of posts.

I suggest this with the thought you won't need the relay ever again.

[easloan2017]

Well, popping the cover off wasn't an easy task. Check out the attached picture. Inside is a circuit board with resistors and who knows what else buried in a hard epoxy-like substance :-( No dirty contacts to be seen.

I don't want to believe that this scooter is a goner because of this one faulty part that is no longer manufactured by the original supplier in Italy. The scooter cranks, and cranks, and......but won't start. This module is connected to the stator, cdi, ignition switch, ground, and electric choke. According the the mechanic I had look at it last week, this choke control module is not completing a circuit somehow and needs to be replaced.

Any other thoughts folks?

Thank you, Ed

[easloan2017]

[easloan2017]

Good evening all. I'm at a loss at the moment still. Seeing that I may not be able to get this choke control module, I'd like to see how I'd go about maybe rewiring the scooter and changing up some electrical components to get this thing running. I've been working on my 2002 Toyota Tacoma truck and my wife's 2000 Subaru Forester for years, but I don't have the experience of working on the electrical system of a 150cc scooter.

Does it seem possible and reasonable to do a rewire? Thoughts please. Much appreciated. Ed

[cyborg]

Before you start cutting into the wires get the number off the case of the relay ,, eBay has to have that thing