Please help me with my Bash 49cc By scuddy (Read 7,837 times)

[scuddy]

I noticed you guys have a good community here of noligable people. So i think someone on here could help me. I bought a 2010 bash 49cc scooter with like 41xx miles on her. It ran "ok" and my buddy rode it to me to sell it. It started fine for the first 12 hours i had it. but i had to warm it up forever. And it often would just spudder and die even when i gave it gas. So today i woke up and cleaned the air filter, and shot some carb cleaner in the hoses and by the fuel filter. And charged the batttery for the elec start. Now when i go to kick it it makes a grinding noise kinda and the kick starter stays down. But is fairly easy to pull up. And when useing elec start it kinda makes a clanking noise when turning over. It ALMOST starts. but just wont. Any sujestions?
Im trying to avoid tearing it apart. But if all else fails, ill have nothing to loose.

[Bashan]

Apr 2, 2012 22:26:25 GMT -6 scuddy said:

Now when i go to kick it it makes a grinding noise kinda and the kick starter stays down. But is fairly easy to pull up. And when useing elec start it kinda makes a clanking noise when turning over.

I can't imagine anything you did with the carb cleaner caused that. The first thing to do is pull the CVT cover and inspect the kick start. Hopefully something is lodged in there causing all the noise. Clanking and grinding are not good noises on a GY6. Rich

[imnts2]

I am not a fan of using the kick starter more than absolutely needed. They just are not built for daily use on most modern scoots

[sprocket]

Ya the kick starters are just for emergency starts.. I agree with Rich..pull the CVT cover and see that is happening.. sounds like the kick starter is slightly engaged and grinding...

[scuddy]

I forgot to mention i did pull off the kick stater cover expecting it to be very gummed up. It was actually fairly cleaned and seemed to be put together properly. It sounded much better turning over today with electric start. Kick start seems ok. But proberly not as good as new. But it still will not start. Again tryin to avoid tear down i just took off the automatic choke today, shot some more carb cleaning in there. Tried to start it for like 15 mins, waitin 15 mins, and tried again for about 10 mins. Still will not start. The fuel filter splashes everytime the engine cranks so i think its getting gas. ONE time it sounded like it tried to spudder like almost starting. But it didnt. URG the guy rode it too me to sell it. Now it wont run.

[sprocket]

If a scooter does not start in 3-4 clicks of the starter button something is wrong...trying for 15 minutes will burn out the starter motor if it hasn't already...

Check for spark, check for gas flow at the carb...

You holding one of the brake handles down? The side stand is in the up position and you are on the center stand?

[scuddy]

Yes im holding the break down, and its on the center stand. And i only hold the starter down for a couple seconds a a time, and like 20 secs apart. 15 mins may be a little exaggerated sorry.

Im tryin to check the fuel filter. With the left line disconnected should gas be able to flow through the filter? Because mine is a very slight drip if that.

[Alleyoop]

The gas should FLOW when your cranking it but not when your NOT cranking it. So if your cranking it and it drips out your petcock is bad and no gas is filling the carb bowl.
Alleyoop

[scuddy]

Sorry but whats the petcock? Theres an arrow on the fuel filter. Should it be pointing toward the fuel tank or the carb? Rite now i put it toward the carburetor and fuel comes out better now.

[Bashan]

Yep, the arrow goes to the carb. The image on the left is a vacuum fuel valve and the one on the right is a vacuum petcock:

They are both vacuum valves but one of them sticks up into the tank. They are often both referred to as petcocks. Rich

[scuddy]

I just checked it for spark, its good. And do they have washers on the spark plug? because the plug dropped in the cover for the air filter thing and i had to fish it out. Just wondering if i missed a washer. But anyway it STILL WONT START. The battery will only stay charged long enough for me to try for a few seconds. it seems like its turning over and firing. And i smell exuast after trying to start it. Any other sujestions?

[felliott]

Have you checked the inricher (choke)?

[scuddy]

How do i go about checking it? i took it off earlier and tried to start it and nothing happpened.

[sprocket]

I think you have a bad petcock...you can test it. remove the vacuum line the one that goes to the center and the fuel line to the carb. Then suck on the vacuum hose with your mouth.

Gas should pee out of the petcock.. if it doesn't stream out the petcock is bad and needs to be replaced..

Another test.. remove the air filter and see if it will start

Yes there should be a thin crush washer on the plug

[scuddy]

Alright i finnaly got it to start. I have no idea why it decided to out nowhere. i didnt do anything special. it started once ran for about 30 secs and died. then it wouldnt start. Waited a few mins. And it started again, ran for 30 secs to a minuet and died. i waited a little again and started it, rode it around the block once and it bogged out and died. I have to keep giving it gas to keep it running. Any reason why it wont stay running? And it wont idle either. Also what type of battery do i need for this type of scooter? And how much is it. Because mine will only stay charged enough to try n start it once or twice. And then its back on the trickler.