Slider weights By bluesberl (Read 2,600 times)

[bluesberl]

I have a 2008 Diamo Retro 150cc.
Everything is stock other than the
15 gram slider weights I have installed.
My question is are they going to harm
Anything?
My scooter has 6800 miles on it and
I have tried rollers and sliders from 10 grams
Upwards and it seemed to me my motor
Was winding out way to soon. So now with
The 15 gram weights I feel enough power
Say at a traffic light and top end is about
52 mph @ 7500 rpm (it does not sound comfortable above that
Rpm). Am I doing any harm using these??

[Alleyoop]

No your not harming it at all the motor makes its MAX power at 7500rpms. The Redline starts at 8000rpms on the 150s. If you want to lower your RPMS change to rollers instead of Sliders.
Here is the difference in RPMS with Rollers and Sliders.

Rollers= For every gram up or down it will change your RPMS by 500-600.
Sliders= For every gram up or down it will cahnge your RPMS by 200-350.

So just by changing to 15 gram rollers your RPMS will drop around 300rpms.
Alleyoop

[bluesberl]

Hey, Thanks for the help... This is my first
Time using Scoot Doc. Fantastic!!!!

[Alleyoop]

Well, Welcome to the forum Bluesberl good to have you on, and tell us what kind of scoot you have and put pictures up of your ride. Most of us use PHOTOBUCKET it is free and easy to use. Just create an account and then upload your pictures to it and then just click on SHARE of the picture you want to put up THEN a page comes up and click on LINK then go down to about the 2 to the bottom and COPY the IMG link and come here and paste it. You can put up as many pictures you want just paste them right after each other.
Alleyoop

[mself52]

I put 14g sliders in my scooter and can't get over 6k rpm what should I do get 16g?

[tvnacman]

me you need to lower the weight .

John

[tvnacman]

5:30 in on the second link shows how to install sliders .

[tvnacman]

Sept 7, 2012 10:41:19 GMT -6 Alleyoop said:

No your not harming it at all the motor makes its MAX power at 7500rpms. The Redline starts at 8000rpms on the 150s. If you want to lower your RPMS change to rollers instead of Sliders.
Here is the difference in RPMS with Rollers and Sliders.

Rollers= For every gram up or down it will change your RPMS by 500-600.
Sliders= For every gram up or down it will cahnge your RPMS by 200-350.

So just by changing to 15 gram rollers your RPMS will drop around 300rpms.
Alleyoop

Hey Alley , can you mix sliders . I was asked this and I'm not sure myself .

John

[Alleyoop]

John,
Yes you can mix Sliders, I have done it many times and My Trike likes 11.5-12g Sliders.
13gram weights it will only get to around 6500 rpms, with the 11.5-12 Sliders it gets to 6800-6900 rpms. After the BBK I have yet to get it over 7000K.
Alleyoop

[mself52]

So I took the variator back off after these posts and took out the 14g sliders and put in the 12g rollers but I noticed where the belt has rode on the new variator it is dark grey and doesn't go all the way to the edge its actually 7.58mm of variator perfectly clean somust not be getting used the belt is less then 40 miles on it gates premium power link kKevlar material 842

[tvnacman]

Sept 14, 2012 19:19:14 GMT -6 mself52 said:

So I took the variator back off after these posts and took out the 14g sliders and put in the 12g rollers but I noticed where the belt has rode on the new variator it is dark grey and doesn't go all the way to the edge its actually 7.58mm of variator perfectly clean somust not be getting used the belt is less then 40 miles on it gates premium power link kKevlar material 842

so did you go for a ride with the 12g rollers ?

John

[mself52]

Nah its late I will know tomorrow and update ya

[tvnacman]

its a crap shoot stock rollers could be 12 or 13g . I know on mine it was 12g

John

[mself52]

This guy mixed 3 sliders and 3 rollers anyone else try this?

scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=talk&action=display&thread=54571

[mself52]

really hoping alleyoop stops by and reads this John speaks very highly of you and says you know your stuff.... so please help

well now i have a new problem.... i took the sliders out and put in the 12g rollers it was awesome i was hitting 57mph in very short flat distance went less then 2 miles and had to slow down for a red light.... after the light turned green i turn the throttle to go and the scooter dies like it ran out of gas....it cranked right back up and when i rev'd it died again...tried 10 times same result seems like as soon as it should start rolling the engine dies... i took off the cvt cover and the clutch isnt engaging... ever had this happen or know whats up? im at work after pushing my scooter for 2.6miles back home and stressing out on whats wrong with it to fix tonight need any ideas....