Filling the tank By steelblade (Read 1,644 times)

[steelblade]

I was told by the people that sold me my Lancer that I should only put in $1 at a time. If I fill the tank the engine would flood. Is this true? Is it something that can be fixed?

[alansd]

That makes no sense, just fill it slowly letting the air work itself out. My tank fill is made so that I can't put the gas pump filler all the way in and gas splashes out. SO I fill a gas can and use that,, less pressure going in.

[Bashan]

So was there snickering from behind the guy as he was saying this? Yeah, I agree it's totally absurd. OK, not totally, but almost. Here's why: If your bike has a vapor recovery system you'll see a vent hose come somewhere off of the fill spout and run to a check valve and then a canister. If you have one of those systems, filling past the vent lets gas run down to the check valve and stops the tank from venting. Soon you build up a vacuum in the tank and the bike stalls. As far as flooding the bike as Snickers the clown suggests, the cascade of the uncontrolled petrol tsunami resulting from $1.10 worth of gas would stop at the check valve or the float valve. Just use your head pal, don't fill all the way to the cap and locate your vent line or vented cap.

[steelblade]

I figured it was something like that. There IS such a line on mine, and I intended to use a gas can but I may not be able to actually do that as I have no place to leave the can. I'll take a look and see how high the vent is and fill accordingly.

[steelblade]

The line on mine is on the top. I put $2.50 in this morning, no problems. There seems to be a metal bar in my tank (Structure for strength maybe?) I think if I never fill past that bar (It's maybe 2" down from the top. May even be to keep the gas nozzle from going to far in) I should be OK.

[Alleyoop]

That bar is to stop it from splashing out it is called a splash guard, never fill it past the bar and a little lower would be better.
Alleyoop

[alansd]

When I go to a gas station the pressure from the pump splashes fuel out of the filler. I've been using a gas can instead. Any way to prevent this?

[Alleyoop]

You have to fill it slowly at a gas station just squeeze a little on the gas handle, just so it streams out.
Alleyoop

[straightbangin]

Ya what Alley said. I try to fill it slow and keep looking in the tank every 1/4 gallon or so. I fill mine to about 75% full but definitely below that " bar "

[Alleyoop]

You GOT's to use your CABEZA as they say(HAHA)
Alleyoop

[Bashan]

Dress warm in Chicago or you'll freeze your Cabezas off. I've been there, it's colder than Toledo!!

That vent hose on the vapor system can be a real pain. The EPA mandates the use of vapor recovery systems. We at Scooter Doc would never advocate the removal of these valuable devices in the face of rising emissions. Here's how you remove the vapor recovery system (VRS). I only go over this so you will know what's going on if you see somebody doing it. Here is a VRS on a 250 but they're the same:

Here it is in it's normal state:

Here's a diagram:

Here's another one, we would NEVER suggest doing this step!!:

I was told the heinous, foul creature that did the step above made sure he tied the vent hose off higher than the fluid level in the tank so gas wouldn't splash out. As far as vapor smells, gas sinks, air rises. The fumes will stay in the tank as long as the vent hose is positioned higher than the fluid in the tank. Or so I've heard, I wouldn't know!!

[Alleyoop]

Yep is is freezing here and we just had more snow last night and more coming. Right now the wind chill is -7 and going down. It has been a brutal winter so far the coldest in a lot of years. In Cancun they call it EL NORTHTA(HEHE).
Alleyoop

[tomcat]

When I go to a gas station the pressure from the pump splashes fuel out of the filler. I've been using a gas can instead. Any way to prevent this?

Same problem here, even feathering the nozzle creates back-splash. I believe the problem is actually caused by the bar itself, gas hits it and bounces out. I've read in other posts that folks have solved the problem by removing the bar.
I'll be doing this when (if) it ever warms up around here.

[cyborg]

If it's not there it's not Fu@kin up so out goes the offending vapor recovery system so you can fill the damned tank,, that is number two on the list of removable items like the nanny switches (ie kickstand clutch ) ,,,, nothing better than having a nonrider making rules for people that do,,,

[oldscootcoot]

Got tired of the miserable level bars in my tank, can filling was the only way to avoid a mess. They twisted out quite easily with a pair of large needle nose pliers. Now filling while away from home and the gas can is an easy task Filling to the bottom of the neck causes no problems.