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Post by mxmatt on Feb 20, 2014 18:28:41 GMT -6
Thats not a common regulator for GY6 . Can you post a picture of the stator plug and its wires and colors ? JOHN  |
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 20, 2014 19:12:05 GMT -6
ok you have a 6 or 8 coil stator , do you have a voltage meter . We need to figure out the wiring .
John
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Post by Alleyoop on Feb 20, 2014 19:34:05 GMT -6
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Post by Bashan on Feb 20, 2014 21:46:20 GMT -6
Is that the original R/R? That's a standard single phase stator and a 4 wire W/Y/G/R Rectifier/Regulator would be expected. If that is indeed the rectifier the yellow and green are straight forward as AC and ground. Now the white is going to be another AC input but it is going to be twice the voltage of the yellow. So where does it plug into the R/R? The red is DC 12v to the battery so it's not that. That leaves us with the ... pink? I can't tell. And a red/white? Still can't tell on my monitor. One of them is probably 12v DC to the ignition (think black) and the other is the white AC input. I think that is the wrong R/R but prove me wrong.
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Post by mxmatt on Feb 20, 2014 22:04:03 GMT -6
ok you have a 6 or 8 coil stator , do you have a voltage meter . We need to figure out the wiring . John I definitely have an 8 coil stator. I have a voltage meter and when I have a chance I'll get the readings and respond. Thanks for the info and help. |
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Post by mxmatt on Feb 20, 2014 22:19:11 GMT -6
Is that the original R/R? That's a standard single phase stator and a 4 wire W/Y/G/R Rectifier/Regulator would be expected. If that is indeed the rectifier the yellow and green are straight forward as AC and ground. Now the white is going to be another AC input but it is going to be twice the voltage of the yellow. So where does it plug into the R/R? The red is DC 12v to the battery so it's not that. That leaves us with the ... pink? I can't tell. And a red/white? Still can't tell on my monitor. One of them is probably 12v DC to the ignition (think black) and the other is the white AC input. I think that is the wrong R/R but prove me wrong. That is the $24 question? I bought the scooter used (125 mi) so there is no way to tell if it is OEM. Chances are it's not. When I get a chance, I will tare into the front end and pull it out. IF it is the wrong R/R, would that explain all the electric problems I seem to be having on a relatively new scooter? Not gonna try to prove you wrong. I'm more apt to think you are right on this one. |
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 21, 2014 5:03:39 GMT -6
Ok so , the greens we know are ground , the yellows line up from stator to regulator , where is the white from the stator-what color on the regulator ? One wire goes to charging the battery (should be hot all the time) then you have an extra wire , Where does it go (switched power on ignition switch , powering headlights) . What is happening to wire color at the regulator plug , what color on the harnes side-to what colors on the regulator side ?
John
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Post by Bashan on Feb 21, 2014 21:08:58 GMT -6
Who's your daddy?:
Yes, that Voltmeter will work for the charging circuit which of course is always DC and shouldn't go higher 15v.
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 21, 2014 21:12:40 GMT -6
Who's your daddy?:
Yes, that Voltmeter will work for the charging circuit which of course is always DC and shouldn't go higher 15v. Where did you get that ? John |
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Post by Bashan on Feb 21, 2014 21:32:46 GMT -6
I just drew it up John. On my way home on the bike I remembered a regulator/rectifier for a 150cc that had a red/white for the auto-choke. I remembered because I found it odd that an entire circuit would be devoted to that but there were more than a few 250's like that. So now we've got the R/W off of the table along with the green ground...no brainer. The yellow, AC feed for lights unless proven otherwise, and the red is almost always battery 12v DC. So now we've got a pink wire on a 150cc when everything else is spoken for. Now unless it is a completely bizarre circuitry, you're going to have AC feed #1 on one side of the rectifier, and AC feed #2 on the other...the classic yellow and white wires. White is sometimes pink. Who's your daddy?
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Post by cyborg on Feb 21, 2014 21:58:30 GMT -6
YOU BE THE MAN!!!!!!!
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Post by mxmatt on Feb 21, 2014 22:44:02 GMT -6
Ok you electric brainiacs! Can one or two or three of you translate this for me? I think tvnzcman is saying I have the wrong R/R for my scoot. Bashan is saying that it is the right one. I do have an auto choke. It appears I still need to run some tests to find out if the damn thing works or not (R/R). I doubt it since I put over 100 miles on the bad boy in the last two days and I've had to charge the battery four times.
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Post by Bashan on Feb 21, 2014 23:14:58 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure the stator is correct. I'm not sure on the R/R though. I am sure it's not charging. Start the bike and check the DC voltage from the terminals of the battery with some RPM. Then check the AC voltage on the pink by grounding one probe and touching the other to the pink on any exposed spot. Do the same with the yellow. Also do the same to the red/white. Tell me what you get and we will proceed.
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 22, 2014 12:02:53 GMT -6
The regulator in there is not common , that does not make it wrong . (more than one way to skin a cat) I have not come across that regulator , however we are down to two wires . Red/white for auto choke , green ground , yellow is lighting circuit , red for charging and the last color looks orange that connects to the white off the stator .
Now I can get you a more common regulator and plug , that regulator color for color I don't have . We still need to check the ac voltage output from the stator .
John
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Post by Bashan on Feb 22, 2014 16:17:29 GMT -6
Well I think Alley had it nailed:
So if it was my bike I'd get a R/R from John that was just White/Yellow/Green/Red and that would be plug and play and then split the yellow and run it to the auto-choke. Thusly:
That is the beauty of AC and why it's utilized not only in scooters but your house. You have the AC feed, run it where you want, hook components up, ground them, case closed. Did you see I used the word "thusly"? A first right here on Scooter Doc! You're welcome.
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? And again at 2033mi. 
..BAD TO THE BONE..
