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Jonway
by: mxmatt - Feb 20, 2014 13:07:11 GMT -6
Post by mxmatt on Feb 20, 2014 13:07:11 GMT -6
Jonway: Is this a brand or style of scooter?
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Jonway
by: kz1000st - Feb 20, 2014 13:16:29 GMT -6
Post by kz1000st on Feb 20, 2014 13:16:29 GMT -6
It's a brand. They have their warehouse in Texas like everybody else. www.jonway.com/
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Jonway
by: LUKE - Feb 20, 2014 13:57:00 GMT -6
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Post by LUKE on Feb 20, 2014 13:57:00 GMT -6
that is another chinese scooter that was given a name that sounded like american name, in short, its an american-sounding chinese scooter.
quality is still chinese..so beware!
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Jonway
by: rapidjim - Feb 20, 2014 14:13:23 GMT -6
Post by rapidjim on Feb 20, 2014 14:13:23 GMT -6
that is another chinese scooter that was given a name that sounded like american name, in short, its an american-sounding chinese scooter. quality is still chinese..so beware! Don't listen to Luke he is a chinese product hater
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Jonway
by: LUKE - Feb 20, 2014 15:36:33 GMT -6
Post by LUKE on Feb 20, 2014 15:36:33 GMT -6
...but i'm a chinese woman luver for sure!
no matter what you ride xmatt, as long as you're having fun riding it, it's all that matters.
, now if your'e having fun fixing too, jonway is for you!( wow,it rhymes..lol)
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Jonway
by: kz1000st - Feb 20, 2014 16:11:49 GMT -6
Post by kz1000st on Feb 20, 2014 16:11:49 GMT -6
..but i'm a chinese woman luver for sure!
You mean your wife is Chinese?
You know that your ethnic leanings are anti-Chinese ever since the British brought them into your Country to do Resource Removal. The ethnic Chinese in Malaya are looked down on as second class. That's why you can't tolerate us riding their scooters. It's a constant reminder that they exist.
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Jonway
by: mxmatt - Feb 20, 2014 17:01:45 GMT -6
Post by mxmatt on Feb 20, 2014 17:01:45 GMT -6
It's a brand. They have their warehouse in Texas like everybody else. www.jonway.com/Thanks. I suppose I could have just googled it. My scoot looks identical to an earlier Jonway but it is a Qipai brand. So confusing.
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Jonway
by: mxmatt - Feb 20, 2014 17:03:45 GMT -6
Post by mxmatt on Feb 20, 2014 17:03:45 GMT -6
...but i'm a chinese woman luver for sure!no matter what you ride mxmatt, as long as you're having fun riding it, it's all that matters. , now if your'e having fun fixing too, jonway is for you!( wow,it rhymes..lol)This sounds like me.
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Jonway
by: Bashan - Feb 20, 2014 17:25:16 GMT -6
Post by Bashan on Feb 20, 2014 17:25:16 GMT -6
It's confusing isn't it? But these guys cleared it right up! It's a style of scooter called "Racer!". Dave at Abscoot gave me the mini lecture on that. It's also a model claimed by many manufacturers. I'm guessing it's the most prevalent scooter out there sitting in garages. The insides are pure Chinese, GY6 engine, single phase stator, CDI, CVT, poor bodywork, learn to work on them. They have improved, some of them, you might see a three phase stator, but still, learn to work on them. Why? The jerks at the local cycle shop will turn their nose up. I've talked to a guy that the local scooter shop wanted $50.00 for a coil!! The scooter shop!! Wow, tight knit community. There are many other scooter styles/models like retro, classic, etc. They're made by different manufacturers like Jonway, Tao Tao, and Znen. The thing is, unlike cars made by different manufacturers, they can be almost indistinguishable, and in fact, often are.
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Jonway
by: mxmatt - Feb 20, 2014 18:18:30 GMT -6
Post by mxmatt on Feb 20, 2014 18:18:30 GMT -6
It's confusing isn't it? But these guys cleared it right up! It's a style of scooter called "Racer!". Dave at Abscoot gave me the mini lecture on that. It's also a model claimed by many manufacturers. I'm guessing it's the most prevalent scooter out there sitting in garages. The insides are pure Chinese, GY6 engine, single phase stator, CDI, CVT, poor bodywork, learn to work on them. They have improved, some of them, you might see a three phase stator, but still, learn to work on them. Why? The jerks at the local cycle shop will turn their nose up. I've talked to a guy that the local scooter shop wanted $50.00 for a coil!! The scooter shop!! Wow, tight knit community. There are many other scooter styles/models like retro, classic, etc. They're made by different manufacturers like Jonway, Tao Tao, and Znen. The thing is, unlike cars made by different manufacturers, they can be almost indistinguishable, and in fact, often are.
So if I summarize what I have learned about my scooter this is what I come up with: Brand: Qipai Style: Racer Model: 150T-6 (what does T-6 mean?) Motor: Lifan GY6 1P57QMJ Wheels: 13 inches Did I miss anything?
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Jonway
by: Bashan - Feb 20, 2014 19:34:54 GMT -6
Post by Bashan on Feb 20, 2014 19:34:54 GMT -6
Lifan is good! Nice motor and probably good stuff hooked up to it. But there are no absolutes with Chinese scooters, I'm sorry, they aren't there. Like, oh yeah Lexus...cool! Nope, it's China bud, it's on the other side of the world, they don't have to adhere to our laws, and we are clamoring for their cheap scooters! The sellers on this side of the globe prey upon the American assumptions that what they see on the media including the websites MUST BE TRUE!! Not even close, I've been through it and I won't spell it out here again. I had my run ins with Math Club Guy at Green Earth Scooters and you know what? He wasn't a bad dude, just working for somebody and trying to make it work. He summed it up for me with one of our first conversations when I didn't know squat about scooters: "um, Chinese scooters...they are what they are....they are an entity unto themselves.....um....let me send you a PDF....call me...um...good luck." A nice guy put in a tough position....hey Math Club Guy, I think of you sometimes, I hope all is well, no hard feelings from me, I hope you're well. You, and I mean everybody, need to educate yourselves by reading forums, or anything else, and know what you're getting into before you buy. They're cheap for a reason, there's nothing wrong with that. Just don't think they're cheap for no reason. Some are cheaper than others, learn to work on them or don't get into it. I will discuss this with anybody, bring it right here. Yes, I'm riding a SYM, I can also take a GY6 apart. Rich
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Jonway
by: mxmatt - Feb 20, 2014 19:58:33 GMT -6
Post by mxmatt on Feb 20, 2014 19:58:33 GMT -6
Lifan is good! Nice motor and probably good stuff hooked up to it. But there are no absolutes with Chinese scooters, I'm sorry, they aren't there. Like, oh yeah Lexus...cool! Nope, it's China bud, it's on the other side of the world, they don't have to adhere to our laws, and we are clamoring for their cheap scooters! The sellers on this side of the globe prey upon the American assumptions that what they see on the media including the websites MUST BE TRUE!! Not even close, I've been through it and I won't spell it out here again. I had my run ins with Math Club Guy at Green Earth Scooters and you know what? He wasn't a bad dude, just working for somebody and trying to make it work. He summed it up for me with one of our first conversations when I didn't know squat about scooters: "um, Chinese scooters...they are what they are....they are an entity unto themselves.....um....let me send you a PDF....call me...um...good luck." A nice guy put in a tough position....hey Math Club Guy, I think of you sometimes, I hope all is well, no hard feelings from me, I hope you're well. You, and I mean everybody, need to educate yourselves by reading forums, or anything else, and know what you're getting into before you buy. They're cheap for a reason, there's nothing wrong with that. Just don't think they're cheap for no reason. Some are cheaper than others, learn to work on them or don't get into it. I will discuss this with anybody, bring it right here. Yes, I'm riding a SYM, I can also take a GY6 apart. Rich Thanks for the input. I have been coming to many of the conclusions/suggestions you state above. I'm cool with the Chinese scooter I have. I've accepted that I'm probably going to replace most of it sooner or later. I've already replaced a crank, stator, CDI, coil and it looks like I'm due for a regulator/resistor. Love my scoot!
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Jonway
by: Bashan - Feb 20, 2014 20:01:12 GMT -6
Post by Bashan on Feb 20, 2014 20:01:12 GMT -6
I'm sorry bud, I got wound up as usual, let's see:
Brand: Qipai Here's the google: Qipai Style: Racer, we discussed it Model: 150T-6 (what does T-6 mean?) nothing Motor: Lifan GY6 1P57QMJ 1= one cylinder, p = tall head, 57 mm bore, QMJ= 150cc. There's an article in the library: engine codes. Wheels: 13 inches: 13 inch wheels
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Jonway
by: Bashan - Feb 20, 2014 20:04:01 GMT -6
Post by Bashan on Feb 20, 2014 20:04:01 GMT -6
You replaced a crank and stator?! Hell, you're there bud! Quit listening to me rant. Good man, GY6 mechanic! Rich
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Jonway
by: cookees - Feb 20, 2014 20:08:05 GMT -6
Post by cookees on Feb 20, 2014 20:08:05 GMT -6
I tell customers that the Chinese scooter industry isn't so much a manufacturer-based model as it is an assembly-orientated venture. So what you have are scooter companies that source their components from other smaller operations and do the final assembly. From what I gathered, there are two main makers of plastic bodies. Almost all scooter makers source their body works from one of these two; hence, the reason there are relatively few distinct body styles. The "racer" style is one of the most popular here in the US. We sell that particular style because it is a big-framed 150 that works well for us "oversized" Americans.
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