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Post by sillylittleboy on Jul 9, 2016 19:44:44 GMT -6
I relayed my little tale of woe in wiping out on my TaoTao PowerMax150. It banged me up pretty good (got a twisted/sprained knee that is creating a little difficulty hobbling around), but my scooter came through without much damage. I've got one body panel that is cracked and broken in a few places where it mounts, but a replacement is on order for $50.
The only other issue I'm having is with my steering. Everything seems to be okay with the steering and I've stripped off all the body panels and inspected it pretty good. I even removed the handlebar assembly. It'll work the way it is, but for me to ride straight down the road I have to have my handlebars turned about 5 degrees to the right (maybe a degree or two more). I'm thinking it MIGHT have something to do with that big nut at the top of the steering column. It reminds me of the front wheel assembly on my bicycle. On my bicycle I would loosen that big nut and then straighten out the handlebars while holding the front wheel between my legs/knees.
Is it the same on a scooter? I've just got to find something big enough and strong enough to loosen that nut, but if there's something else I might be missing that anyone would care to share, then I'd be most obliged.
Thanks, SillyLittleBoy
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Post by sillylittleboy on Jul 9, 2016 19:29:50 GMT -6
Wow... that is awesome that you're able to take nice long trips like those on a Chinese scooter. Interesting what you said about CT not having a helmet law, because I live in Iowa and we do not have a helmet law here either. Since I was only riding 2.1 miles to work and 2.1 miles home, I thought having the wind in my hair/face would be nice. I got me a nice pair of those goggle shade glasses, which helped to keep the bugs and dust out of my eyes. Well... Tuesday morning I was leaving for work nice and early and cruising up to the QT for some breakfast before work. There was little to no traffic on this divided 4-lane road when suddenly from a side street a car came flying out into the road, turned and sped down the road. I had swerved to miss the vehicle and may have over-reacted just a bit, because I hit the medium in the road and the next thing I know some guys are strapping me to a gurney and loading me up into an ambulance. I was lucky and nothing was broken, but I banged my head off the pavement at least once or twice AND rubbed a few body parts along the cement just to make my mark. I got a little road rash on my arm AND on the other side of my nose (from what you can see here). I guess I could be a walking billboard for wearing a helmet at all times (got one and will be wearing it going forward). Fortunately the scooter isn't in too bad of shape. One of the body panels is cracked and broken in a few places ($50 = replacement part) and there are some scrapes on a few other body panels, but it still starts up and runs and rides just fine. There's ONE small issue I've having, but I'll post that over in the technical board. Gotta leave this thread open for tales from the highway.
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Post by sillylittleboy on Jun 9, 2016 21:08:45 GMT -6
Funny you should mention insurance, since I work for an insurance company that does insure motorcycles, scooters, ATV, and even golf carts. There is one other layer of theft protection that I happened to enjoy and that's.... living in Iowa. Even living in the biggest city in Iowa is a far cry from say, Chicago or Minneapolis. I also live in a real good neighborhood.
BUT... I'm also not a fool or complacent, because I believe in the Seven P's of life, "Prior proper planning prevents piss poor performance." BE PREPARED FOR THE WORST!
Cover, lock, cheap alarm, and... I paid $860 for this scooter so the insurance better be real cheap!
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Post by sillylittleboy on Jun 9, 2016 15:10:20 GMT -6
So my scooter right now has been living in a friend's garage where it's nice and safe and warm. Now that I've got a license plate for it, I think I'm ready to bring her on home. The only issue is that I live in an apartment, so I want to make sure my baby will be well protected from the weather and from folks who might covet my fine ride.
Did a lot of searching, reading reviews, and checking details on good all-weather covers and this is by far the highest rated one for all I need. Some covers mention being "water resistant," which means if I spit on it then anything under the cover will probably not get any spit on it. But rain, snow, sleet... yea... not going to be resisted much. This one is 5-ply and sounds very weather resistant and water-proof:
www.amazon.com/OxGord-Waterproof-Outdoor-Scooters-inches/dp/B00DNJPYO2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=A14LV6JF56JQRZ
Next step is to protect it from those jealous folks who wish they were as cool as me and had a HOT scooter of their own. I see a lot of these disc locks that are very reasonably priced and I think would be a good deterrent to any potential thief.
www.amazon.com/Trimax-T665LC-Hardened-Metal-Disc/dp/B000W0KTKY/ref=pd_sim_263_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=418-U68lODL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=GKTY1MHNP8DDFRNSQ1MY
I thought I'd throw this little cheap alarm onto the whole mix just as one more added layer. It would be easy to disable this audible alarm and remove it, but I figured by the time they took the cover off, worked around the disc lock, and then if an audible alarm went off, too... I think 99.99% would give up and leave it alone. For the cheap price, I can't resist it.
www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Motorbike-Scooter-Anti-theft-Security/dp/B00APRSI6G?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A1XYAIVMYBPEWU
Thoughts? Suggestions?
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Post by sillylittleboy on Jun 9, 2016 14:59:21 GMT -6
DUDE, JR... THANKS! Also to johnjs for the referral. I had seen this manual on Amazon and had it saved in my Wish List, figuring it would be very helpful sometime soon.
OH... and the link worked perfectly for me Win7 Pro and IE 11. If you left click on it, then depending on your internet speed it'll take a few moments to download into your temp folder before opening. If you're having trouble with the left click, then try...
Right click and choose "Save Target As" and in a few moments a pop-up will allow you to save it as it downloads.
THANKS! This manual doesn't list my specific make and model, but what I've learned about these Chinese scooters is that they're all related. I just keep watching (or reading) how tos until I see something that looks familiar (like my scooter) and then I pay close attention and it usually takes me through doing it on MY scooter (or one that is almost identical).
I'd like to adjust the valves this weekend, which means I'm going to have to watch a half dozen videos showing the procedure until I find one that looks like mine. I've never adjust valves on any other internal combustion device, is it as easy as it looks in the videos?
THANKS AGAIN!
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Post by sillylittleboy on Jun 9, 2016 13:37:28 GMT -6
Awesome! Thanks for all the replies on the hose. It sounds like something I just need to clear out or clean out from time to time.
THANKS COOKEES for the info on the spacer. I figured it had something to do with the steering column. I knew it didn't have anything to do with the front wheel and disk brakes. It may also help make the whole steering assembly a bit "tighter." Not that it's loose or anything, but there's a wee bit of play in it.
Thanks again for all the replies. Hopefully I can figure out where that steering column spacer goes. We'll keep you posted.
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Post by sillylittleboy on Jun 7, 2016 12:06:20 GMT -6
Well, I did my due diligence and stripped my new scooter down to the frame. Then I checked all the connections and sealed the exposed connections with dielectric grease and then sealed other areas with silicone (NOTE: Question: Would using silicone to seal areas between body panels where they don't fit together tight, help prevent rain/water from getting in where it shouldn't? This would not be in lieu of a all weather cover, but more for when riding and it starts raining.). I put locktite on most all of the bolts and re-seated them. I changed the engine oil and the gear oil. Engine oil was kind of a pain, because I'd check it and I'd be way over-full. Then I'd drain a little and I'd be way under-full, so I'd add some and I'd be way over-full.... (Note: Got the magnetic drain bolts for this scooter on order thru Amazon). All went well with PDI and assembly, though all the assembly instructions provided or found online were for OTHER models or brands. I didn't find anything that was specific to my make and model, but we figured it all out except for.... This one part that I think goes on my steering column somewhere. It has no threads and is more of a spacer of some kind. Hopefully the photo shows this part accurately. The diameter is just under an inch. Here's my other mystery - The Mystery Hose. At first I thought it maybe a fuel line, but since my scooter has started up just fine and runs just fine then it's not that. Not sure if I'm supposed to do anything with it, but it just looks odd. I got my idle set correctly, but still need to figure out where my fuel mixture adjustment is located so I can get that adjusted properly. And finally I want to adjust the valves as needed. Anything I missed? Oh.. and thanks in advance for any assistance. I greatly appreciate it.
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Post by sillylittleboy on Jun 7, 2016 11:32:45 GMT -6
Yes, THANK YOU, JR for updating the manual and helping us scooter newbies (and oldbies?). It is most appreciated.
I'm heading over to another board to show some pics and ask a few questions, but thought they should be under a different heading/thread.
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Post by sillylittleboy on May 27, 2016 17:03:59 GMT -6
Thanks to everyone for the welcome and thanks JR for your efforts with the manual stuff. Wow, I can't imagine how busy you must be if you're raising grandkids. I've got two of them myself, a boy and a girl - twins - and I adore them but one of the best parts is that I don't have to take any responsibility with them (or hardly any). My daughter takes care of doing all the parenting, along with her husband, so my part is just to be the fun Papa.
My scooter got delivered today. I live in an apartment, but a friend graciously gave me the option of having it delivered to his house. I got the scooter removed from the crate and put the front tire on it, which made it easier to move it into his garage. Getting ready to go shopping and get all the items on my list. New engine oil, gear oil, dielectric grease, silicone sealant, Locktite, and perhaps some wax for protecting the surfaces.
One other item I think would be useful, since I don't have a garage, would be a nice cover. I'm going to hit up Amazon.com to see what I can find, but if anyone has any good suggestions on a protective cover, I'd be most appreciative.
Thanks again to everyone and we'll keep you posted. Had a long day today that included a funeral, so not sure if I'll do much work on it tonight. Got a little league game in the morning at 11am-1pm, so maybe if I put in some time tomorrow afternoon I might be ready to fire her up by dinner time. I definitely want to make sure I do all the proper things needed before I even touch that starter. I can see how some folks would be too anxious and just want to throw some gas in it and hit the starter and take it out for a run.
It's tempting to want to do that, but I'd also be way too nervous that my premature starting and riding could cause or be the start of some serious problem(s) down the road. That's enough motivation to keep my finger off the trigger and do the due diligence on this baby.
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Post by sillylittleboy on May 22, 2016 18:34:26 GMT -6
Yea, I use IE because it's what I'm used to using. I like the Favorites Bar where I've got over two dozen of my most often visited and favorites sites just one click away. I don't mind that Google saves my previous searches, since it often saves time with new searches or re-searches. I'm always logged into Google anyway, so I know they're saving stuff.
I try not to search for any porn on this PC, since it wouldn't do for my grandkids to type in an 'A' in the Google search bar and have... something other than APPLE auto-populate or pop-up as a suggestion.
classic.startpage.com - huh? Maybe that will come in handy, should I want to do any dubious searches.
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Post by sillylittleboy on May 22, 2016 18:07:15 GMT -6
AWESOME! This looks to be exactly what I need, which I suppose I could have done the Google-time myself. I'm pretty good at finding things on the internet because there's really nothing you CAN'T find on the internet. Sometimes I think if I had the right tools, then I could probably pull and re-build an old V8 engine using nothing but YouTube videos walking me through the process.
The videos total an hour and 49 minutes, so I know what I'm doing for the rest of the evening. From what I've read and my own experience with Chinese manufacturing (RC Quads), I'm hopeful that my Chinese scooter experience will be a good one, so long as I have the knowledge and do those things needing done when they need to be done. Plus I'm a patient guy. When I got my DJI Phantom-clone from China, I patiently did my due diligence BEFORE I took it outside to actually fly it on the third day. I'm off work starting this coming Wednesday and then not scheduled back until the day after Memorial Day. So I've got plenty of time to inspect and seal and locktite and whatever else I need to do.
THANKS AGAIN!
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Post by sillylittleboy on May 22, 2016 17:11:14 GMT -6
Hi, New Guy here who's not familiar yet with all the players on this really great forum, but may have come closer to making a faux pa (spelling?). I found some broken links in the Scooter Doc Manual and was preparing to PM Scooter Doc when I stopped myself. First off, I am so sorry to hear about Rich. He was obviously a very valuable, helpful, and knowledgeable guy in regards to scooters AND I'm sure a lot of other things, too. Not knowing if Rich was THE Scooter Doc, I thought I'd post this out to the group rather than trying to figure out if my PM would be received. I do believe that Rich would be very happy to know that this forum here has continued on in his memory and continues to help those like myself who are becoming a scooter owner for the very first time.
I came to this forum in hopes of finding exactly what I did find with Rich's Scooter Doc Manual. I already know I'm going to be referencing that manual a LOT starting real soon (my scooter arrives at my residence some time this week). One thing I really wanted to do before I fully assembled my scooter or started it up, was to do a full and thorough inspection and sealing (I've gathered that much from other postings I've read, that it's very helpful to use some silicone sealant in some areas to prevent wires from grounding out or other damages that could occur or could be prevented from occurring. I was hoping that I might draw from all the experience and experiences of the scooter owners on this forum and maybe save myself from learning something "the hard way" that someone else has already learned (the hard way.)
On this thread:
scooterdoc.proboards.com/thread/5324/scooter-doc-gy6-manual
At the very end of PART TWO: THE PDI there is a link for exactly what I was hoping to find and what I dearly need very soon, since my new scooter will be delivered to my residence sometime this week.
The link: THE SCOOTER DOC GY6 PDI
Returns a page that says:
Oops, there was an error! The thread you are trying to access could not be found.
Here are a few other broken links I found in PART THREE: REPAIR
SCOOTER DOC FUEL FLOW TESTING
REAR DRUM BRAKE AND WHEEL SERVICE - this link is linked to another page:
scooterdoc.proboards.com/thread/1492 - then on this page is a link:
REAR DRUM BRAKE SERVICE PDF - and it is this link that is broken.
AWESOME manual for repairing and maintaining a scooter and the other broken links are not of great concern to me.... yet... but the one on the PDI would really be helpful.
ANYWAY... letting the group know about these issues and hoping they might be easy fixes.
THANKS
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Post by sillylittleboy on May 22, 2016 10:56:09 GMT -6
THANK YOU, kwtraderfor the excellent detailed suggestions. Now That's what I'm talking about. He relayed knowledge that he gained by doing the wrong thing, which cost him dearly and he's sharing it with all so that the rest of us don't have to learn it the HARD WAY!
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Post by sillylittleboy on May 22, 2016 7:09:48 GMT -6
New guy here getting ready to enter into the Chinese scooter debate or debacle, depending on which side of the fence you're on. I do have experience with Chinese manufacturing and their quality concerns. I'm an RC flyer and when I first heard about these GPS-enabled autonomous flyers and began looking into purchasing one myself, the name that came up most often was DJI. They're USA-made and their flagship product is the DJI Phantom (2, 3, or 4) where a very stripped down version will cost you close to $1000. That seemed like a lot to pay for such a thing and then I found this Chinese knock-off/version that had all the same features AND more. Instead of $1000, this baby only cost me $200 (Cheerson CX-20/Quanum Nova). I also found a forum of very knowledgeable and experienced folks and I start reading and tagging he knowledge base of information. This MUCH less expensive Chinese version had some flaws, but I located and read detailed "fixes" or "mods" that often just involved relocation of some components and my own thorough Quality Inspection. I was hoping to find a little of that on here and this thread seemed like a good spot to share "What to do when you first get your Chinese scooter" Guitarman shared or hinted that there were some things a new owner could do or should do to preventively perform proper checks. User rks went a bit further and actually gave us a shopping list, "....a tube of silicon caulk, some dielectric grease, and a tube of blue loctite, some zip ties, and a roll of electrical tape." Someone else posted something about the need to "waterproof" your Chinese scooter, so I can kind of infer from that and this list what I need to do with those items on the list. "nards" - it sounds like you've gotten plenty of answers to your question, but I suspect that you're waiting for someone to give you the answer you want. I've read lots of reviews, watched YouTube video reviews, and read through lots of posts on this forum and I've probably acted contrary to what many have said. I'm probably getting what is considered a pretty low-end, not the "best manufacturer," Chinese scooter. It's a done deal. It's been bought and paid for and being delivered sometime this week. I work 2.1 miles from home and that is my primary reason for purchasing one AND I've kind of always wanted a scooter. I don't really plan on using it for Sunday drives and I'm already planning a bit of a strip down and weatherproofing venture upon arrival. I'm going to follow all the detailed maintenance instructions to the letter and on schedule. I'm going to be very easy on it for at least the first few hours of operation. Until then I won't be doing more than maybe 30-35 mph to give all the seals and gaskets a chance to seat, rather than just blowing them out. I didn't know anything about quadcopters or RC control, but doing all the tinkering and maintenance and modifications to my Cheerson CX-20 taught me everything I need to know. It was the best way to learn and I learned lot. I don't know anything about scooters, but I bet I'm going to start learning a whole lot real soon. I was hoping to find some detailed tutorial on "What to do first, when your Chinese scooter arrives." Details or a video on doing the weather proofing (although I can figure that out) and I've heard tell of making some adjustments to the valve(s) settings and I bet there's a few more things a person could and should do. Maybe I'll start creating the documentation that I was hoping to find so that what was learned the hard way won't need to be learned that way again. I've spent more on a weekend in Vegas than I have on this scooter, so if it does self-destruct and blow-up or melt-down in a few months or a few weeks, it will have lasted longer than my Las Vegas weekend AND I'll have learned a whole lot more than I did in Vegas. My "soon to arrive" Chinese Cataclysmic Catastrophe of Chaotic Contortions choice is a TaoTao Power-Max 150cc scooter. Most of you have probably seen them, but here's a picture anyway. Oh and my last weekend in Vegas cost me around $1200, but this scooter was only $860 for EVERYTHING! Hey Nards, I'm going for it, but what do I know... I'm just a... SillyLittleBoy
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Post by sillylittleboy on May 21, 2016 18:37:55 GMT -6
Replying to a pretty old posting on here, but it's all new to me and my response maybe helpful or at least will be a means of introduction.
I am preparing to cross-over into a nether region I've never been before (I think that's what nether region means), though it's more a state of mind than it is an actual physical place. If it were a state it would be called "New China" and it would be a very popular summer vacation destination. Due to the very high revenues generated by all this tourism, there'd be no need to collect any state income taxes from it's residents.
Now you might start conjecturing that I'm somehow involved with this New China tourism or maybe you think I'm involved in some sort of Import/Import business (they used to be Import/Export businesses but we don't even buy our own USA made products any more).
No, but I have been involved with Chinese manufacturing providing much less expensive alternatives to really expensive stuff. I'm an RC flyer and a company over here called DJI makes these really nice GPS autonomous quadcopters, such as the DJI Phantom or DJI Inspire. Those quads start at around $800 for a really stripped down Phantom and go up to around $3500 for a loaded Inspire. I read about this Chinese version of the Phantom that had all the capabilities and more, but was just a fraction of the cost at $200 (Cheerson CX-20/Quanum Nova). There was a friendly and VERY busy forum where I learned about how t manage this Chinese product, which began with a thorough self-quality analysis of everything, components, welds, wiring, and positioning. A little relocation and re-orientation of some components was suggested, along with some vibration absorbing Zeal placed beneath the flight controller.
Plain and simple, the quadcopter works great, but it does require a little PM (preventative maintenance) and proper care. I actually enjoy tinkering around with my quad, modifying it, adding features, and just poking around under the hood. It's just taught me a lot and made it possible for me to troubleshoot and fix anything on a quadcopter. I'm looking forward to learning all about scooters while I get to ride around on one for a WHOLE lot less than I ever thought possible.
Oh... and a hey and a ho to all you patients of Scooter Doc, cause maybe a little patience is all you need (no wait, it was love that was all I needed, right?). Love IS patient and I'm going to be real patient with my new China doll. She might not be a Vespa or a Honda or a Suzuki, but that doesn't make my love her any less. I accept her for who she is and she's all mine. I'm just waiting on delivery this week.
But then again, what do I know... I'm just a... SillyLittleBoy
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