Overall Chinese scooter quality - - - Discuss By kevinharrell (Read 3,574 times)

[rapidjim]

I went back and re read everything that drahken said and one thing really sticks out he talks about destroying the American manufacturing with Chinese Junk. Well I am sorry to bust his bubble, the Chinese did not destroy American manufacturing it was destroyed a long time ago and American Manufacturing did it to itself by not being competitive, high influx of Japanese imports and Labor Unions. Now how about that for a heated discussion? LOL!

I also noticed he was harping about replacing carbs instead of rebuilding them, but didn't comment when I left the link. Oh Well.

Then there was "i just can't stand chinese scooters, had a lemon. screw them" Let's follow that logic

I got A bad piece of beef from the store, so all beef is crap, screw them.

I had A bad Bicycle once, so all bicycles are crap, screw them.

I had A bad Chevy once, so all Chevy's are carp, screw them.

I think I made my point.

As far as not paying tax when one buys a scooter from a flea market (or drop ship) he is partially correct, you may not pay tax at the time of purchase but you will when you go to register and plate it. Just like buying a used car from a private party.

I also didn't see where any ADMINs threatened anyone.

Everyone has an opinion, some are educated opinions and some are not.

[JR]

Dec 22, 2014 8:42:44 GMT -6 rapidjim said:

I went back and re read everything that drahken said and one thing really sticks out he talks about destroying the American manufacturing with Chinese Junk. Well I am sorry to bust his bubble, the Chinese did not destroy American manufacturing it was destroyed a long time ago and American Manufacturing did it to itself by not being competitive, high influx of Japanese imports and Labor Unions. Now how about that for a heated discussion? LOL!

I also noticed he was harping about replacing carbs instead of rebuilding them, but didn't comment when I left the link. Oh Well.

Then there was "i just can't stand chinese scooters, had a lemon. screw them" Let's follow that logic

I got A bad piece of beef from the store, so all beef is crap, screw them.

I had A bad Bicycle once, so all bicycles are crap, screw them.

I had A bad Chevy once, so all Chevy's are carp, screw them.

I think I made my point.

As far as not paying tax when one buys a scooter from a flea market (or drop ship) he is partially correct, you may not pay tax at the time of purchase but you will when you go to register and plate it. Just like buying a used car from a private party.

I also didn't see where any ADMINs threatened anyone.

Everyone has an opinion, some are educated opinions and some are not.

I had A bad Chevy once, so all Chevy's are crap, screw them.

Impossible! No such thing as a bad Chevy, just some are better than others!

[Deleted]

Dec 22, 2014 0:27:45 GMT -6 drahken said:

parts from plastic hold up better, wood holds up better. playdoh holds up better.

lets see you make a scooter out of plastic, wood and playdoh then.

[Deleted]

Dec 22, 2014 8:42:44 GMT -6 rapidjim said:

I went back and re read everything that drahken said and one thing really sticks out he talks about destroying the American manufacturing with Chinese Junk. Well I am sorry to bust his bubble, the Chinese did not destroy American manufacturing it was destroyed a long time ago and American Manufacturing did it to itself by not being competitive, high influx of Japanese imports and Labor Unions. Now how about that for a heated discussion? LOL!

I also noticed he was harping about replacing carbs instead of rebuilding them, but didn't comment when I left the link. Oh Well.

Then there was "i just can't stand chinese scooters, had a lemon. screw them" Let's follow that logic

I got A bad piece of beef from the store, so all beef is crap, screw them.

I had A bad Bicycle once, so all bicycles are crap, screw them.

I had A bad Chevy once, so all Chevy's are carp, screw them.

I think I made my point.

As far as not paying tax when one buys a scooter from a flea market (or drop ship) he is partially correct, you may not pay tax at the time of purchase but you will when you go to register and plate it. Just like buying a used car from a private party.

I also didn't see where any ADMINs threatened anyone.

Everyone has an opinion, some are educated opinions and some are not.

that's it Right there!

[richardv]

Right on Mr. Jim.

[w650]

If Chinese scooters are crap how do you explain all the many Chinese scooters out there with high mileage? Luck? Many Motorino Dealers have noted 20,000+ miles on 50cc scooters with no more than routine maintenance according to John Dikov of Scootersus.com.

[drahken]

im not dealing with your lies like an admin threatened me i didnt say that. and you make strawmen arguements like make a scooter from playdoh. no thats the chinese job. and some crap arguement about american manufacturing not being competitive, it was made that way, not competitive not with the 50's style which you cant seem to differentiate that from all the other stuff, but by a bunch of lawyer crap so they could get out of paying money for anything to they let themselves get sued out of everything. which upped the cost of a bunch of crybaby crap. environment crap that NOONE gives one crap about.

and the poisoniong the well fallacy you used about a bad bike there all bad. no there not all bad, but you cant seem to say that chinese have lemon scooters. and also are not even up to taiwan standards on metal or any product production.

what else makes them? you got a guarantee, nope not on a chinese and then if its not guaranteed its, in well something its like is something used. but you buy something used, its usually not chinese if you paid anythying much for it, and its not a lemon. only a once in a bluemoon, like the bicycle you bought that was bad could happen.

im not sitting here and arguing with these fake arguements. you guys go back to that guy who was yelling earlier and yell at him. leave me alone. and i didnt say an admin threatened me, another strawman arguemetn like half of anything you can say.

if you think i can make a scooter from playdoh, then ill do that if you come and buy a sym from me, itll be new for 5000 dollars alright?

[drahken]

Dec 22, 2014 8:42:44 GMT -6 rapidjim said:

I went back and re read everything that drahken said and one thing really sticks out he talks about destroying the American manufacturing with Chinese Junk. Well I am sorry to bust his bubble, the Chinese did not destroy American manufacturing it was destroyed a long time ago and American Manufacturing did it to itself by not being competitive, high influx of Japanese imports and Labor Unions. Now how about that for a heated discussion? LOL!

I also noticed he was harping about replacing carbs instead of rebuilding them, but didn't comment when I left the link. Oh Well.

Then there was "i just can't stand chinese scooters, had a lemon. screw them" Let's follow that logic

I got A bad piece of beef from the store, so all beef is crap, screw them.

I had A bad Bicycle once, so all bicycles are crap, screw them.

I had A bad Chevy once, so all Chevy's are carp, screw them.

I think I made my point.

As far as not paying tax when one buys a scooter from a flea market (or drop ship) he is partially correct, you may not pay tax at the time of purchase but you will when you go to register and plate it. Just like buying a used car from a private party.

I also didn't see where any ADMINs threatened anyone.

Everyone has an opinion, some are educated opinions and some are not.

everything you said was a poisoning the well fallacy.  lets count 1,2,3 or more people liked you for that. 

american manufacturing wasnt competitive?  no your epa crap noone gives a crap about sued out by lawyers who talk about crap noone gives a crap about, drove out american manufacturing, theres no way what you say is possible, it had one so it coulndt lose it for no good reason.  did japan suddenly run into a large slab of high grade iron and america went nah we'll let you produce from now on? 

you left one link and you also claimed thats the only time you mentioned to replace carbs.  no everytime someones carb is not working good you suggest replace and not rebuild, ever,every time and use the excuse that its got these screws here but your not telling that person that theyre trying to FIX it, not do that.  just go search.

everything you say can be searched to find out its not right.  poisoning the well fallacy on everyone of your arguements.

the chinese bike had a model that was a straight lemon.  besides whole productions being lemons, they also have lemons come out pretty common.  had to take thsi off had to take that off.   poisoning the well fallacy

i never said admins threatened me, poisoning the well fallacy.

and your comment at the end is also a poisoning the well fallacy, about yourself.  too.  

and really what did you want me to do with that link about a carb someone wanted to edit the idle screw with and it had acap over it?  do your own search everyone reading this topic of carb problem on a chinese scooter, andfind all the posts.  the answer you guys give is replace the carb.  then some ebay link.  theres where you money comes in.  thats why i said this forum makes money.  giving awful advice.  its like every other chinese forum.  the members attacked me.  not an admin.  is the admin supposed to say something?  i said they run it to give bad advice to sell ebay auctions. so?  SO?

hah.  go read for yourself. its like this topic, full of attacks and everything lese.  IM DONE WITH IT.  you guys go yell at that guy that was yelling at the beginning of the topic/

[cyborg]

Boy I'm glad that's over,, thank goodness ,,, those long winded posts were starting to give me a complex,,, and all that dough we are makin here is all gone now,,, now that's a fallacy I can believe in,, geez

[Deleted]

Dec 22, 2014 16:33:40 GMT -6 drahken said:

Dec 22, 2014 8:42:44 GMT -6 rapidjim said:

I went back and re read everything that drahken said and one thing really sticks out he talks about destroying the American manufacturing with Chinese Junk. Well I am sorry to bust his bubble, the Chinese did not destroy American manufacturing it was destroyed a long time ago and American Manufacturing did it to itself by not being competitive, high influx of Japanese imports and Labor Unions. Now how about that for a heated discussion? LOL!

I also noticed he was harping about replacing carbs instead of rebuilding them, but didn't comment when I left the link. Oh Well.

Then there was "i just can't stand chinese scooters, had a lemon. screw them" Let's follow that logic

I got A bad piece of beef from the store, so all beef is crap, screw them.

I had A bad Bicycle once, so all bicycles are crap, screw them.

I had A bad Chevy once, so all Chevy's are carp, screw them.

I think I made my point.

As far as not paying tax when one buys a scooter from a flea market (or drop ship) he is partially correct, you may not pay tax at the time of purchase but you will when you go to register and plate it. Just like buying a used car from a private party.

I also didn't see where any ADMINs threatened anyone.

Everyone has an opinion, some are educated opinions and some are not.

everything you said was a poisoning the well fallacy.  lets count 1,2,3 or more people liked you for that. 

american manufacturing wasnt competitive?  no your epa crap noone gives a crap about sued out by lawyers who talk about crap noone gives a crap about, drove out american manufacturing, theres no way what you say is possible, it had one so it coulndt lose it for no good reason.  did japan suddenly run into a large slab of high grade iron and america went nah we'll let you produce from now on? 

you left one link and you also claimed thats the only time you mentioned to replace carbs.  no everytime someones carb is not working good you suggest replace and not rebuild, ever,every time and use the excuse that its got these screws here but your not telling that person that theyre trying to FIX it, not do that.  just go search.

everything you say can be searched to find out its not right.  poisoning the well fallacy on everyone of your arguements.

the chinese bike had a model that was a straight lemon.  besides whole productions being lemons, they also have lemons come out pretty common.  had to take thsi off had to take that off.   poisoning the well fallacy

i never said admins threatened me, poisoning the well fallacy.

and your comment at the end is also a poisoning the well fallacy, about yourself.  too.  

and really what did you want me to do with that link about a carb someone wanted to edit the idle screw with and it had acap over it?  do your own search everyone reading this topic of carb problem on a chinese scooter, andfind all the posts.  the answer you guys give is replace the carb.  then some ebay link.  theres where you money comes in.  thats why i said this forum makes money.  giving awful advice.  its like every other chinese forum.  the members attacked me.  not an admin.  is the admin supposed to say something?  i said they run it to give bad advice to sell ebay auctions. so?  SO?

hah.  go read for yourself. its like this topic, full of attacks and everything lese.  IM DONE WITH IT.  you guys go yell at that guy that was yelling at the beginning of the topic/

Good riddance to ya

[rapidjim]

Dec 22, 2014 16:43:02 GMT -6 cyborg said:

Boy I'm glad that's over,, thank goodness ,,, those long winded posts were starting to give me a complex,,, and all that dough we are makin here is all gone now,,, now that's a fallacy I can believe in,, geez

Dec 22, 2014 20:42:06 GMT -6 @lanternscooter said:

Good riddance to ya

Ditto

[JR]

Ever take time to notice how many times this subject, this type of thread comes up? Interesting reading, but same subject same discussion, Chinese scooters are a good value or they are crap. But what stands out the most here is the OP didn't think their opinion mattered any more after one post?

Think about it if you may.

JR

[DrRocco]

Gee Whiz! This thread is dead for 6 months, I make one comment...and it all goes to hell.

Where do I sign up for my cut of the dozens of dollars being made here?

Merry Christmas, Gents!

[scoot]

rapidjim,JR,@lanternscooter,richardv,w650,drahken,cyborg,DrRocco wow some peoples kids.you try to teach them and what do they do eat the crayons.

[richardv]

Yum! Yum! Like crayons.