Tell Obama to stop Messing with Israel !!! By Kaveman (Read 3,025 times)

[terrilee]

your thoughts about the Navajo nation
WELL NO I DONT KNOW ALOT ABOUT THEM
ASK ME WHAT I KNOW OF THE NOO-CHEW AND THE REST OF THE UTE NATION.

well hun thats just one of 1000 of nations
that were here.

so big deal the US govt did a 'few' good things for one nation
what about the other 999

and back to Israel

they are wanna be big bois
why do they always need help ?

they killed the original people's or put them on rez's

what justification do U have for that?
oh i know, they wanted their own land so they stole it by FORCE.
i have no will feelings about them.
EXCEPT
ITS NOT YOUR LAND , GIVE IT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE!!

[bcgreatness]

there is not too many countries that can say they didnt take the land they currently call their country. though they took israel, that was the crusaders bad. i kind of feel for the newer generations of kids and people who are born being told that its their land and have to live through constant battle over land.

[dudley]

Everyone at some point has to let go of the past.the men who spread small pox to native Americans have been dead for a hundred years.no native American is forced to live on the RES.
Our computer programmer is native American. He makes a fortune and lives in a BIG house in Houston.drives a BMW.
Anyone today who is a fifth class citizen needs to look at their own decisions and consider the future rather than dwell in the past.

[bobf]

Interesting as I lived between the Ute Mountain Utes and the Southern Utes. Both are doing quite well. Both are currently prosperous and running businesses and casinos. Considering there is no going back they have adapted quite well. I have worked with native Americans for more than 30 years, as a coworker not a sociologist or agent, and have had good times with them. None were so angry as some seem to be. One I have known for the longest is a Navajo and when he retires he wants to return to the Navajo Nation and retire to a small plot of land in the mountains and have a Hogan. He said he already has the land allocated to him by the council. Sounds like a good deal to me.

If you read some history of Israel, and maybe the link about Palestine that I posted, you will find that much of the history of those many years ago are pretty murky. I don't think there is any way to properly reconstruct those days of several thousand years ago. What has been agreed to many times in the years from the charter of the nation of Israel is for a compatible two nation solution. Ask Norway, twice, and how many times for the US, to have agreements to this until the times come to agree on paper. Then we always see the Palestinians to walk away from the handshake with the Jewish leadership. It is not just the Jewish that are the problem.

I will walk away now as someone in such a state of anger can never give another a fair listen.

www.navajo-nsn.gov/

www.discovernavajo.com/

www.utemountainute.com/index.htm

www.southern-ute.nsn.us/
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[terrilee]

now i am NOT talking 1000 years ago
what was it, 60 years ago that the Israel
attacked and killed or forcibly removed the original people?

im not even talking the 300 yrs of the US history

60 YEARS AGO!! and gee the US supported that
wonder why??? maybe because of their track record
or was it they wanted a puppet state?

and only fools who have lost
walk away

lmsao

U CAN NEVER, EVER JUSTIFY WHAT THE ISRAEL'S DID!!


NEVER, EVER

[bobf]

I have not lost and you know it to be true what I say.

If you are talking about the 1967 6 day war they were defending Israel against a series of attacks the Arab nations started.

www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/Israel+in+Maps/

Click on the 6 day war to see how the Arabs set up attacks on Israel. Then look to what they Arabs lost. Nobody was tossed off those lands and now most of it has been returned to the former status.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_involving_Israel

Read this article and see how often it is just Israel facing many Arab countries and even countries like Russia supporting the Arabs.

So it is always the Jewish that are the problem?
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[terrilee]

NO IM TALKING ABOUT HOW THE JEWS STOLE THAT LAND,just like the US Govt didTHEY DECIDED THEY WANTED IT--AND TOOK IT

NOT 1000 YEARS AGO, NOT 300+ YEARS AGO

60 YEARS AGO, AND THE WHOLE WORLD JUST LET EM DO IT.

NOW STFU


and thats my personal view U DONT LIKE DO WHAT U SAID


OH AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS A RULE ABOUT PLOITIC DISCUSSIONS
SO WHY DID THE THREAD BE ALLOWED TO BE STARTED


CAUSE IT WAS A J

[sprocket]

Money and oil ...oil and money.. it won't change until both are gone.. and China calls their debts

[Bashan]

Sage words from the sage Sprocket. And now I'm going to take the Fashion out for a spin and think of other things. Rich

[bobf]

Fortunately I will be long gone before either of those events have happened.

The US does not need more oil from the middle east, we have plenty of discoveries but our environut government won't allow us to use our own at any where near capacity available. We can not even build sufficient refineries to provide processed oil products and the current EPA is shutting down some we have. We have a crazy government in charge.

Canada and Mexico are both big providers of oil for the US but somehow we can not use our own pool of oil and we live right between the two countries.

www.globalpost.com/dispatch/100726/top-7-us-oil-importers
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[dudley]

Native American tribes frequently went to war with each other to acquire land and slaves.
Not much different than the us government you seem to despise.
They also migrated here from Mongolia and drove the Peoples already here to extinction.
Seems that people are people and we all occasionally misbehave, and occasionally do great things.
It's just the times that are different.

[bcgreatness]

could not have put it any better dudley. and i didnt know there was a no politics thread rule, i can see why. things spiral out of control very fast. everybody is entitled to, and has their own views so i guess that rule is in place for good reasons.

[Alleyoop]

The thinking is, when everyone runs out of oil to run all their machinery and make products the U.S will have the resources. That is why the U.S is hoarding it in massive shell deposits underground.

Also I have a theory about global warming and that is as the world depletes the OIL underground WHICH OBSORBES the heat from the earths core the temp on the surface gets warmer. You heard it here first .
Alleyoop

[runningslow]

The reason you never want to discuss politics on a forum: Godwin's Law

[Random Hero]

You will never win an argument against that witch...see how she lost the argument then CRIES...."OH AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS A RULE ABOUT PLOITIC DISCUSSIONS
SO WHY DID THE THREAD BE ALLOWED TO BE STARTED"

I thought she was leaving the boards anyway.