Scootin On The Cheap By kz1000st (Read 1,489 times)

[kz1000st]

I haven't read this yet, I'm on my way to work. Dave is usually reliable.

www.justgottascoot.com/cheap.htm

[davec]

I quit reading after para 1, where he disses Chinese and goes onto the 'quality' scooters, Kymco, Honda , Yamaha.



".................When it comes to cheapskate maxiscooters, you are going to do better if you can perform some or all of your own mechanical work. It's not that the models suggested need a lot of work, it's just that they often involve a LOT of wrench turning for simple maintenance tasks.
.............."

................DON'T fall for the too-good-to-be-true new scooters, usually from mainland China. In many cases, these machines are being sold at fairs, swap meets, low end used car lots, auto parts stores, mobile phone stores and so on............. .


Scanning the rest of the article is a regurgitation of what we talk about here.
So, to me, it's just another 'personal opinion' from someone who has the $$ to buy the best, and disses the rest.

[jct842]

He is right about a majesty and maintenance, its bad news. Wrong on comfort, it rides like it's a hard tail and must be a little guy as nothing said about the parking brake hitting your knee on a sharp left turn or not being able to see in mirrors unless you buy mirror extensions. And of course the windshield is way to short to be of any value. It was built for midgets.

[novaraptor]

Not a bad read. My complaint about it would be the title. The article is about midpriced rides and is a good primer for the new to the scooter owner that does not want to do their own wrenching. The article strays away from that near the end when talking about buying used to save the money, then about how you will need to learn to do some of your own wrenching. It is his opinion that you can't get a better deal buying a low cost china scoot because you will then have to replace parts and do your own work. If you are completely unable or unwilling to work on your own bike, then that is fairly valid. But I feel, like many others, that you should know how to work on your own vehicle. If you have enough money that you can hire others, then that is great. But one of the best features of low cost scooters is that the parts are pretty cheap, and working on them isn't all that difficult. Just my opinion, of course...

[rgmarsing3]

Yah. What Nova said

[amac1680]

Nothing wrong with that article as stated above it leans to those that can't or doesnt want to wrench on a scoot.
Everyman has a different deffinition of "cheap".

Be Big,
AMAC

[richardv]

Interesting article to this wonnabe but then I checked out his add for "designer" bags at the bottom. No bargain there.

[davec]

May 2, 2014 6:06:24 GMT -6 richardv said:

Interesting article to this wonnabe but then I checked out his add for "designer" bags at the bottom. No bargain there.

Figures
A nice new clutch (as in hand bag) would look good on the Magna.
Still think a Sabre would be the way to go.

But, this article is biased, as are Sabre owners

Carry on, old man

[amac1680]

May 1, 2014 8:20:11 GMT -6 davec said:

I quit reading after para 1, where he disses Chinese and goes onto the 'quality' scooters, Kymco, Honda , Yamaha.



".................When it comes to cheapskate maxiscooters, you are going to do better if you can perform some or all of your own mechanical work. It's not that the models suggested need a lot of work, it's just that they often involve a LOT of wrench turning for simple maintenance tasks.
.............."

................DON'T fall for the too-good-to-be-true new scooters, usually from mainland China. In many cases, these machines are being sold at fairs, swap meets, low end used car lots, auto parts stores, mobile phone stores and so on............. .


Scanning the rest of the article is a regurgitation of what we talk about here.
So, to me, it's just another 'personal opinion' from someone who has the $$ to buy the best, and disses the rest.

In all due respect these are true statements.

Most on these forums will agree that if one buys a china scoot, a drop shipped one in particular, they will have a better experience if they have mechanical skills and the desire to work on the bike. With no dealers the PDI is left to the new owner so some wrench turning is required from the get-go.

I also think we all have seen some of the crap that is offered online. A wise buyer knows what to look for. As we know just because two scoots look the same they are not.
A great many don't come to these forums before they buy they come after looking for help.

To say a person who buying a scooter to ride on not work on will be better off with a china scoot over a Kymco, Honda etal is simply ignoring the facts. They require less work and in the long run many will be better off spending more upfront instead of trying to find a shop to work on their china scoot.

As far as high-end bag ads,again one mans ceiling is another mans floor. Cheap is a relative term.

[richardv]

The clutch on the Magna works fine thank you. At least it did when I still owned it.

Oh! I get it. B-|You meant a woman's clutch. Maybe, just the right size for the cell and the Ruger LCP. Have a fanny pack with outside pockets for the cell and camera. Just the right size for the Bersa Thunder. I also have a dispatchers bag that was called a "man bag" down in Milwaukee and a F&S Day Bag (big enough for a lap top and files).

Have decided on the VTX yet. I wasn't aware they were discontinued. Still think they would make a good trike.

[richardv]

May 2, 2014 8:50:33 GMT -6 amac1680 said:

In all due respect these are true statements.

Most on these forums will agree that if one buys a china scoot, a drop shipped one in particular, they will have a better experience if they have mechanical skills and the desire to work on the bike. With no dealers the PDI is left to the new owner so some wrench turning is required from the get-go.

I also think we all have seen some of the crap that is offered online. A wise buyer knows what to look for. As we know just because two scoots look the same they are not.
A great many don't come to these forums before they buy they come after looking for help.

To say a person who buying a scooter to ride on not work on will be better off with a china scoot over a Kymco, Honda etal is simply ignoring the facts. They require less work and in the long run many will be better off spending more upfront instead of trying to find a shop to work on their china scoot.

As far as high-end bag ads,again one mans ceiling is another mans floor. Cheap is a relative term.This is why I'm here before I buy. I did the same for the Gold Wing and the Magna. I made mistakes before that.

[davec]

May 2, 2014 9:05:06 GMT -6 richardv said:

The clutch on the Magna works fine thank you. At least it did when I still owned it.

Oh! I get it. B-|You meant a woman's clutch. Maybe, just the right size for the cell and the Ruger LCP. Have a fanny pack with outside pockets for the cell and camera. Just the right size for the Bersa Thunder. I also have a dispatchers bag that was called a "man bag" down in Milwaukee and a F&S Day Bag (big enough for a lap top and files).

Have decided on the VTX yet. I wasn't aware they were discontinued. Still think they would make a good trike.

The VTX is a great bike. Lots of power, and would make a good trike conversion.
Let the Sabre folks know what you decide

And , yea, I got a Ruger LCP, a Ruger 9mm, and a Taurus 357.
All capable of stopping a bad guy

[kz1000st]

To say a person who buying a scooter to ride on not work on will be better off with a china scoot over a Kymco, Honda etal is simply ignoring the facts.

That may be true but many people can't afford the buy in. Frankly I wouldn't pay even the $2400 Kymco asks for its Super 8. There are way too other things I could buy with two wheels at that Stratospheric price. Yes, occasionally you'll find a bargain like Cyborg did but even that came with start up issues.

If you do buy a Brand Name, used, are you absolutely sure you won't get burned? Here's the other thing. I hear people say, "It's been running fine for 6,000 miles" like that's a ton of miles. Keep in mind I rung up 125,000 miles on a motorcycle clock. Talk to me at 65,000 miles. That's when the new is really worn off.

Hmmmm. Let's see. A $2400 Kymco Super 8 or this:

binghamton.craigslist.org/mcy/4446892659.html

[amac1680]

As they say there is an arse for every seat!
many can afford the buy in.
many don't see $2400.00 as stratospheric.

Where you wouldn't pay the price for the super 8 another person would.
Some see value in their time spent not wrenching and paying more upfront. Others gain the advantage of a lower buy in but will need to twist the wrench.

As far as the 20 plus year old BMW, it would be of no value to this buyer. First I've been there, 20 years ago.
Second I don't ride scooters because I can't find a good deal on a used motorcycle I ride them because I enjoy riding them.

The "cheap/expensive" threshold varies wildly from one buyer to the next is all I'm saying.
Just my .02

[kz1000st]

That presupposes that Chinese scooters require a lot more wrenching. I don't see it.

www.vespalx150.blogspot.com

Read down and see what the maintenance free Vespa needs.