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Post by rapidjim on May 22, 2015 6:54:26 GMT -6
Just to chime in here. dmartin, you have done a great job both in your build and sharing your information. Even us old farts learn a thing or two. Keep it up Jim Thank you! I referenced your build you published as if it were a Chilton! Don't know if everyone else has seen it or not, but RapidJim also published a build ( right here's the link)..... It was my inspiration to actually build one of these motors... Without the thread you created, I may have been too hesitant because the lack of information out there.... So a big thanks goes out to you and all the guys like you who take the time to help other people! Glad my post helped someone else to build their own.
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Post by rapidjim on May 19, 2015 7:25:46 GMT -6
Just to chime in here. dmartin, you have done a great job both in your build and sharing your information. Even us old farts learn a thing or two.
Keep it up
Jim
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Post by rapidjim on May 14, 2015 7:24:12 GMT -6
Well, when you start looking at octane make sure what grading system they are referencing. In the US and Canada the octane ratings are what is called pump octane. Pump octane scale is a lower number than the research octane scale used in Europe and Asia. If your scooter calls for 92 octane RON then that is the same as 87 octane AKI (R+M)/2, in US and Canada. My little Japanese Honda CH80 calls for 92 RON in the tank but that is Regular gas, 87 Octane here in US, Canada and in Australia and New Zealand. You are correct in your statement about different ratings. This is where things get a bit messed upped. In most cases, if the fuel requirement is RON it will state 92 RON. According to Ice Bear, their fuel requirement is based on US rating not RON, because the machines are export design and something to do with the EPA and all their crap.
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Post by rapidjim on May 11, 2015 7:11:05 GMT -6
Both my local stations are listed.
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Post by rapidjim on May 8, 2015 8:07:16 GMT -6
If I may chime in here. In 2010, Ice Bear only made the Magnum and the Compeller in a 300cc, they are two totally different body styles. The Magnum has not changed much in the body and the Compeller is no longer available. If you are looking at a Compeller, be advised that body parts are extremely difficult to come by. They both have the same motor and rear end and reverse is controlled by a lever on the left side of the handle bars. If you use reverse, be sure to check the adjustment of the cable on a regular basis to preclude rear differential failure. 2010 COMPELLER 2010 Magnum
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Post by rapidjim on May 8, 2015 7:23:14 GMT -6
This article pertains to cars, a different animal than a motorcycle or small engine. Most motorcycle manufacturers suggest 93 (premium) octane or higher. Ice bear recommends 91 octane or higher by the owners manuals. I have seen many scooters with a sticker by the gas fill saying 92 or higher. The bigger issue is ethanol, esp if the scooter sits for long periods of time. Around here we can still get non-ethanol premium fuel, the pumps are marked, For use in motorcycles, vintage cars and off road motors. As I said earlier, ethanol eats rubber, which is not a big deal in cars since there is very little rubber lines in the fuel systems now. Older dodge mini vans had an issue with the rubber fuel lines at the fuel filter, deteriorating from the inside out due to ethanol, they now use hard plastic lines. I use to be skeptical of this until a friend told me to try something, I took a small mason jar filled it with ethanol based fuel, then put a piece of rubber gates fuel line in it, put the lid on and let it sit on the self for 30 days. The rubber turned to mush. Now imagine those particles getting into the fuel bowl of your carb. And yes in the liquid state it will get past the filter.
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Post by rapidjim on May 6, 2015 7:10:05 GMT -6
Oh Boy the great fuel debate!
My opinion, as well as the guy that owns the small engine shop up the road, small carburated engines love higher octane without ethanol. Ethanol eats rubber and the shelf life of ethanol fuel is only about 30 days.
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Post by rapidjim on May 6, 2015 6:50:37 GMT -6
I concur with all the above, esp the frequency of changing your oil. Remember you do not have a conventional oil filter, just a screen. Volkswagon used the same type system for years without issue. I will admit, I am not a big fan of synthetic oil except for use in transmissions.
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Post by rapidjim on Apr 27, 2015 13:36:17 GMT -6
Thanks Guys!!!!!
One note I will be getting owner's manuals on PDF soon on my site
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Post by rapidjim on Apr 27, 2015 7:10:09 GMT -6
In late 2011 Ice Bear modified the 300cc trike's reverse mechanism. They took the reverse out of the differential and put it in the motor case. At that time they added neutral and put the shifter on the right side of the trike by the rider's leg. By adding neutral they got a better throw of the gears to allow better engagement. They eliminated the cable operation of the shifter and change it to hard linkage. With the old cable system, the cable would stretch and prevent proper engagement of the gears causing the gears to eventually strip. If owners would have simply adjusted the cable correctly from day one and then periodically adjusted the cable they would not have had the issues they did. My 2010 has the differential cable driven reverse and works just fine.
Now the new models, with the shifter on the side, also has to be set up correctly during the PDI. That seems to be one thing that is over looked by some. If you look under the right side towards the motor, you will see a shift lever installed over a shaft coming out of the motor/transmission, looks just like a foot shift lever. Remove the bolt and make sure that the lever is pushed fully onto the shaft. Put some blue locktite on the bolt and reinstall and tighten. Now place the shift lever in reverse, adjust the shift rod to make sure you have the transmission all the way into reverse. Place the shifter in neutral and start the trike and check the reverse and forward. Readjust the shift lever for correct operation. I have noticed on a couple trikes that have been ridden with improper adjustment, that once the adjustment is done, sometimes you need to go just past the neutral notch to get into neutral, then drop the shifter back to the notch and it will stay in neutral.
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Post by rapidjim on Apr 5, 2015 9:46:34 GMT -6
Very nice tribute JR
Rest in Peace Rich you will be greatly missed
Jim
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Post by rapidjim on Mar 17, 2015 7:40:43 GMT -6
What you are experiencing is tank slap. Due to the geometry of a trike, anything amiss in the rear will transfer to the handle bars. Make sure you have the rear tires spun balanced. Also remember you are on 3 wheels, not 2 or 4, and it does not handle the same, it is not a good idea to remove your hands from the bars.
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Post by rapidjim on Mar 13, 2015 6:59:09 GMT -6
Sorry to hear of the bad day you had. I feel your pain, had the battery crap out on a ride once with my Harley, so I know how you feel. Just like your scooter, no battery no go, no kick start either so I was SOL. But new battery every 2 years and all is golden again.
Just make sure her new scooter what ever it is has a name brand battery with a warranty, I offer my customers an Interstate Battery at a discount when they purchase a new machine from my lot. Hard to do with on line customers due to the restrictions and cost of shipping batteries.
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Post by rapidjim on Feb 28, 2015 8:38:54 GMT -6
Normal operation, at idle you should be getting 15 to 20 vac across the white and green wires (lighting circuit) and peak around 60vac at high RPM. Same is true of the yellow to green.
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Post by rapidjim on Feb 26, 2015 14:46:06 GMT -6
Talked to the warehouse again today and they have not located your part
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