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Post by mapbike on Aug 4, 2011 20:26:32 GMT -6
I don't know the best way to get to the valves. Any tips? Since I have a Roketa MC-74-150 I can help you out with this one. raise seat, take out the storage compartment, lift the floor mat off, remove the 2 screws that hold the vented plastic cover that is directly under the front part of the seat, remove the cover, now if yours hase the air filter box that is under the seat you will be able to get to all of the 10mm bolts that attach it to the frame, remove all of the bolts, should be 4 if I remember right, remove the hose that goes from the air filter box to the valve cover on the engine, and now with a flat blade screwdrive loosen the hose clamp that clamps air filter snorkle onto carb., now remove air filter box. Now you should be able to get to everything that you need to get to inorder to set the valves, now all you need to do is remove the valve cover and follow the direction for setting the valves on your scoot, very easy proccess only take a few min. and you will be putting all the plastic back on and be ready to start-er up. hope this helps, I know it seems a bit chopped up but this all you need to do to get to the point of removing the valve cover. Peace, map
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Post by mapbike on Aug 4, 2011 20:15:25 GMT -6
An issue with the valves was my guess as well, what made me think this is when you said that it only revs to 6000 RPM's with the rear wheel off the ground, if it were an issue with the variator or clutch it would still hit 8000+ RPM's easy with the rear wheel off the ground.
I went through a simular issue one time on a 50cc scoot that belong to one of my brothers, power just kept falling off until finally it wouldn't even start & run, I adjusted the valves and it started right up and ran like new, it had almost 3000 miles on it when all this started happening to it, I'm surprised it lasted that long because the valves had never been touched on it.
Anyway, set those valves and good luck.....hope it runs like a champ when you're done.
I also have a 2008 MC-74-150, great scoot! just set the valves on mine last week and it pulls better and revs better on the road now, mine has 2100+ miles on it now.
Peace, map
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Post by mapbike on Jul 25, 2011 19:25:07 GMT -6
Steve contacted me today via email and said that he was very sorry for the mistake of sending me the Prima rollers and that he was getting the NCY rollers sent out right away........... no harm no foul.....!
Now that I see how they will make things right if they make a mistake, I will have no problem doing business with them from here on out, this was a good test and Steve passed with flying colors it seems.
Just wanted to let everyone know me and monstergy6.com are all good now as soon as I get those rollers, I am offering to send the Prima rollers back, I dont want anything for nothing, all I want is what I ordered.
Peace, Shan
PS: If you want to move all this over to Dealer Experiences, that will be just fine with me Rich.
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Post by mapbike on Jul 22, 2011 18:04:00 GMT -6
Hey no problem at all sprocket, I figured you had fuel additive on your mind.....
As to the fog........if I didn't have a bit of that everyday I would think something was wrong....LOL!
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Post by mapbike on Jul 22, 2011 17:58:58 GMT -6
Thank you Rich,
I hope I didnt sound to harsh in the post, but I feel slightly shafted on the deal because I wasn't given the option to decide if I was willing to settle for a substitution and the fact that I got charged $16 for what seems to be the rollers that they typically sell for $11.50, if I had wanted the the cheaper black rollers that's what I would have ordered, But I didn't want those because I already have some of those type and wanted the better quality rollers.
Yes...this was not a good first impression for me......
And yes I will post final outcome of this situation in the Dealer Experiences section.
Thanks for the heads up on that.
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Post by mapbike on Jul 21, 2011 19:21:43 GMT -6
Finally recieved my order from monsterGY6.com today I ordered the stuff back on the 10th of July and not only did it take way long getting here but I didn't get what I ordered in reguards to the rollers I paid for. I ordered a set of the NCY brand 12g. rollers which I got. I ordered a set of the NCY brand 13g rollers which I didn't get. Instead I got Prima Brand rollers which look to be the ones they sell for $11.50 but I was charged $16.00 for the set as if they were the NCY brand rollers. www.monstergy6.com/product_rollers.htmI ordered a UNI Filter which I got and a #120 jet which I got. I called 3 days ago to see why I hadn't got my order yet and was told it had taken so long because they had been on vacation..........but my order would be shipped out that same day that I called, it seems that it was shipped as I was told but I didn't get what I paid for. I'm very disapointed in what they seemed to have done by substituting a product and charging me for what I actually ordered. NOW.............If I am wrong about the Prima brand rollers being a cheaper lower quality product please someone correct me, but they look to me just like the standard black rollers that they list on their web site for $11.50, the finish on the rollers is dull and a bit rough, not at all like the finish on the NCY rollers..........., the reason I ordered the 12g & the 13g is because I wanted to have a total weight of 12.5g in my variator and I wanted matching rollers not 2 different kind with one being inferier to the other. First time I give monsterGY6 some business I get crapped on or so it seems. Sorry to rant a bit here but almost 2 freaking weeks and then I don't get what I ordered......! incuded here is a pic of what I got. Peace, Shan Attachments:
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Post by mapbike on Jul 21, 2011 18:30:06 GMT -6
It's a PTFE ( Teflon ) OIL additive, ( Greased Lightning ) I use about 2 table spoons in the crankcase at each oil change.
I use a Lucas product in the fuel about ever 3rd - 4th fill up and I also use about 1 table spoon of it in the fuel.
no where near over doing it with Greased Lightning in the oil or Lucas in the fuel.
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Post by mapbike on Jul 19, 2011 21:28:22 GMT -6
I have a 150cc scoot and I run for many mile WOT all the time, mine has over 2030 miles ( 3267kms )on it now.
My suggestion is that you be using a very high grade 4 stroke Motorcycle 4T oil designed for air cooled engines, I am using an oil made by Lucas in mine now but there are many others that are good as well, Castrol, Amsoil, Valvoline, Yamaha and other major motorcycle makers in a 10w-30 or 10w-40 grade.
The oil is the life blood of these little high reving engines so it is very important that it be of a very high quality and changed fairly regular to keep the protecting from the heat & pressures of the high RPM's at its optimal level, alsio make sure to check your valves settings here pretty soon if you haven't already, that is another critical point that needs to be kept right on these little screamers.
I wish you and that scoot long life......Peace
Shan
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Post by mapbike on Jul 19, 2011 21:02:06 GMT -6
Here's a pic of what the bottle of Greased Lightning Instant Engine Treatment looks like. Attachments:
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Post by mapbike on Jul 19, 2011 21:00:44 GMT -6
I agree completely on your take of the oils.
I also think that using the rare earth magnets on the spring is a great idea..... I'll be doing that one myself next time I change my oil... Thanks
And as to the oil pump, I've read several post by others that have said that the pumps in these engines are a bit weak in the knees so to speak and might have a hard time moving the heavier oil in a high enough volume to lube the engine like it needs to be.
I use a PTFE additive along with the high grade oil, it isn't all that expensive about $5 for an 8oz bottle but it sure is some slick stuff and in a high heat high pressure enviroment the slicker the better...., I use about 2 table spoons of it at every oil change, this stuff has so much Teflon in it that it is milky, it's in a base that is claimed to have other good additives for dealing with the high heat & high pressures.
It's called Greased Lightning Instant Engine Treatment and I use it in all of my air cooled 4 stroke engines and have been for a long time, I believe that it really does make a difference in reducing wear.
If you have access to some get soem of it and you'll see what I mean when you pour some out and/or get some of it on your finger, the stuff is extremely slick......
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Post by mapbike on Jul 19, 2011 17:33:26 GMT -6
Now thats got to be good oil as well, Castrol makes very good products and always has, my late uncle owned a Yamaha Dealership for most of my life and he wouldn't run anything and I mean anything else in any of his motorcycles or personal vehicles period, He was an engine builder and racer back in the late 60's early 70's and he swore by Castrol in everything he owned.
thats what I had in mine before but it wasn't the same oil as you are running and I was running the 20w-50 which is all they had at the time so that is why I got it, none of my local stores carries the oil you're running but I know it is good stuff because it's Castrol.
I paid $8.99 for a quart of the Lucas if I remember right, kinda high but 1 quart will do 2 oil changes so thats not to bad really and as long as my engine is getting great protection I'm happy with that price.
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Post by mapbike on Jul 19, 2011 12:26:04 GMT -6
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Post by mapbike on Jul 19, 2011 12:20:02 GMT -6
No I had dash lights with out the reg/rec even being on the scoot at all, but when it was off and I reved the engine up pretty high it blew the dash light bulbs, I have new led's installed and the new reg/rec installed and all is working great now, maybe I was getting AC to the bulbs without the reg. being hooked up but when it is maybe now they get a regulated dc voltage...?
Not sure how it all is working but I just know it is and I'm dang sure happy about that.
I went on a 61mile ride this morning and all is working perfectly, I changed my oil and have switched to using Lucas Semi Synthetic 10w-40 Motorcycle oil plus I put about 2 onces of Greased Lightning PTFE oil additive in also and I sure can tell a difference in how it is performing now, seems to have a bit better torque on the low end, compared to the 20w-50 Castrol Motorcycle oil I had in it, I think the 20w-50 was just to heavy of an oil even though it has been being 104 - 106 degrees here lately.
Having my headlights running straight off the battery power instead of the stator is something I'm really liking, they burn much brighter and don't dim down at idle like before, in my opinion so far this is the only way to go with the head lights.... wish I would have done that mod sooner.
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Post by mapbike on Jul 18, 2011 21:31:57 GMT -6
I have my scoot insured through Allstate $6.30 per month = $75.60 per year.
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Post by mapbike on Jul 18, 2011 19:39:10 GMT -6
Oh and in the mini book I pecked out above I forgot to mention that only 2 of the bulbs were burnt out so it wasn't a bad deal at all.......very simple inexpensive fix.....! Just the way we like them to be.
Now if I can just get my other goodies in so I can get just a tad bit better sound and performance out of this little booger.
Peace
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