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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on Jul 23, 2013 15:13:11 GMT -6
I followed the illustration, everything is back together, and the battery is charging! Although we have one last problem...I'm getting 17 volts to the battery at maximum RPM. Is this going to harm the battery?
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on Jul 22, 2013 10:52:44 GMT -6
Well...From what I'm thinking, I'm thinking that my voltage regulator could potentially be wired incorrectly. I've kept the same wiring despite the fact that I've switched voltage regulator's three times. Could it be that it is wired incorrectly, or no? Because they all output voltage, but maybe that means nothing. My wiring right now is this i.imgur.com/LEhiLHz.jpg |
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on Jul 21, 2013 13:36:17 GMT -6
I will, but the other three I have fried in the exact same way, where there is negative DC voltage. What could cause them all to fry like this?
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on Jul 20, 2013 10:29:08 GMT -6
Yes, I am being very consistent with my leads. If I swap them around so the black is touching the postive and the positive is touching the battery ground, I get a positive voltage. Checking directly from the alternator regulator, I get negative voltage to the battery. I have positive AC voltage going in to the regulator from the stator though, so I think it's toast. Along with the other three I had.
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2013 13:40:31 GMT -6
So I am finally getting my bike in running order. The only problem is, two of the regulator/rectifiers I had were giving off negative DC voltage into the battery. I swapped them both out to a spare I had and I got positive DC voltage. Shortly after, the new one starting giving out negative DC voltage. What would cause that? Maybe because I don't have the battery connected at the time of me testing it, it blew it?
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2013 9:51:04 GMT -6
Well, I've made progress after all this time, and of course only after spending $148 for a 'professional' to try to fix it and come up with nothing. I remembered a wire that I connected underneath the dash that wasn't connected when I first got the bike. This wire seemed to give power to the dash lights when the ignition was turned on. I disconnected the wire and now I get proper voltage to my battery. I still have a blown regulator (ignition is always on when battery is connected) and am going to get that replaced soon. I sure do hope that was the problem.
Last question though...I noticed that when I read the voltage from the red lead, I'm getting negative voltage (-6.55) instead of positive. Is this going to be another problem??
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on Jun 6, 2013 19:53:56 GMT -6
Got it! Thanks!
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on Jun 6, 2013 13:27:11 GMT -6
I don't get it. I can't get the wires out of this thing, and it seems so simple! No tabs or anything! How do I remove the wires from this harness?!  |
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on May 30, 2013 18:00:41 GMT -6
Thank you Bashan. I have tvacman a call and be says that he probably has a regulator for me. He says that my stator works great, if not more than it should (more AC than there should be). He also said that I may need to tone down the voltage with some sort of regulator (curse my short term memory), I don't remember what it was called. Ill check in after I get the new regulator/ rectifier
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on May 29, 2013 14:31:50 GMT -6
Also, can somebody identify my old regulator? Maybe I ordered the wrong one after all, who knows.
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on May 29, 2013 14:17:07 GMT -6
Before I go along with those tests, I do have a question. If I unhook the wires from the regulator/stator and then test the AC on it, I get quite a lot of voltage. (20+). The lights also go higher as the engine revs. But here is where I think the problem is. I believe that the original regulator was bad, and the new one is possibly wired incorrectly. Do you have a wiring diagram for what wires go to what on the rectifier? I hope to check and rewire the regulator/rectifier if needed and maybe that would fix my problem, because I'm getting lots of voltage.
Edit: It appears wired correctly. I found a diagram. But it still doesn't work. So it obviously must be the regulator...How do I find the proper one?
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on May 25, 2013 13:22:17 GMT -6
Update: I disconnected things like the ignition and all the other wires and I can get 12.2ish volts to the battery.
Edit: the dash board is taking MOST of the power (taking at least 7 volts away from charging the battery
The ignition takes 5 volts from charging the battery
It leaves roughly .50 volts to charge the battery (obviously not enough) with both of those connected
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on May 25, 2013 6:49:38 GMT -6
I do not know for sure if I have the right R/R. I thought they were universal, personally. Here are some pics of the bike and such, all labeled on imgur: imgur.com/a/y8NMI#0This is the new R/R I purchase: www.ebay.com/itm/121030440720This is the new alternator/magneto I put on: www.ebay.com/itm/270735865164Attaching the volt meter with the battery connected gives me the batteries voltage (which is going down continuously). That is somewhere in the range of 12.92 all the way down to dead at 11.85 depending how many times I've started/ran the bike since the battery has been on a charger. Adding throttle has a tendency to make it go up .01 volts or so at high revs but it goes right back down after you let go of the throttle. Here are how the wires are connected under the bike: [/b]/blue connected to the yellow/blue wire ( Mismatched wires?!) White/yellow (big white connector) connected to white/yellow Green/yellow (big red connector) connected to green/yellow [/ul] |
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Post by FACE PLANT FOR LIFE on May 24, 2013 21:24:05 GMT -6
*sigh* I am really getting frustrated here. I bought a 50cc chinese moped from some guy for $200, and it didn't run, but it does run now. The last problem with it is that it isn't charging the battery AT ALL. At first we thought it might have been the battery, so we replaced the gel battery it had in it with an equivalent gel battery (should it have been replaced with a starter battery?), and we got some extra juice out of that one. Unfortunately, that didn't fix it. The battery died a couple days later and we had to put it back on the charger. So next we replaced the regulator/rectifier with one with found on ebay, and that also appeared to make absolutely no difference. We were getting somewhere in the ballpark range of 9v (with the battery disconnected and just touching the red lead with a volt tester) which obviously isn't enough to charge the battery. So anyways, the regulator didn't work either. So we finally did the most extreme thing and ordered a brand new magneto/alternator/stator. It's put in and things have gone really downhill. I'm now only reading .50/.60 volts from the red lead that goes to the battery  I thought maybe I put it on backwards or something, so I flipped it around today, and of course that made absolutely ZERO difference. The bike still starts fine, but the battery drains like crazy. I can run it without the battery oddly enough, and I can rev for brighter lights (but no turns signals without the battery). What do I do?! I've run out of options! |
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I thought maybe I put it on backwards or something, so I flipped it around today, and of course that made absolutely ZERO difference.