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Post by 89newbie on May 18, 2011 6:36:22 GMT -6
dont know how to post pics. Yes bolts around Variator cover, thats why I gave the distance c/l to c/l of the two shafts. Oh by the way copied your post in arch on variator weights etc. Convinced these are the wrong weights because engine does not stay in the rpm range on hills.
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Post by 89newbie on May 17, 2011 21:12:56 GMT -6
50 cc Scrappy details say long case 10 bolts short 8 bolts mine has 9  Pulled it down to get the belt size and look at condition of variator and clutch housing. Belt marked as follows CT154D also marked 90-a 90-a 90-a Still at a loss with long or short measured from variator to clutch hub centerline to centerline is 10 inches. Long or short??? Plenty of belt dust and clutch is slightly out of true run. Alleys post on variator set up I learned the following: From reading a variator set up weight wise I got the following info. powerband should be 6 to 7 k if going up hill and goes lower than that weights are too heavy. Also same article engine will rev to 9 k which is top speed ( short for burn it up) any ideas on what this belt size, or long case or short case? |
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Post by 89newbie on May 17, 2011 7:05:06 GMT -6
Thanks Ally, and all others. In haste I reported the 8200 rpm thing wrong the GPS was 49 mph at 8200 rpm, not 42 MPH. At any rate the engine is overspeeding on downhills if I go WOT, which I have stopped doing. The 150, on lay away, with good deposit is sidetracked. ( Seller refused offer on house). Right now I guess I need to do something to 50 because it is used to go to town all the time. $ needs to be spent to keep the 50 healthy right now ( saves me 40 bucks a week going to work alone). Looking at what was said by all of you how does this sound? Taller gear to drop the over rpm, lighter variator sliders, to pull hills better, and probably clutch changes and a new belt. ( I have noted the start off rpm is no longer 300 to 3500 rpm but between 3500 and 4000. In good conscience I would not be able to sell Wildfife not running properly, I'm not made that way. (Little disapointed too, Real Estate agent was super sure seller would accept offer).
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Post by 89newbie on May 17, 2011 4:09:16 GMT -6
hi 89newbie main stream conscious still that it is an intuitive illusion that it will for example= blow a slow speed fan on a hi speed and watch the hi speed slow down. So what you are saying is when in the air stream if scoop captures too much air flw it will actually slow the engine fan thus resultant would be increased temp instead of decreased. |
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Post by 89newbie on May 16, 2011 21:36:33 GMT -6
Thanks for the pics. Great Job! I was sitting here wondering because on another site a fellow had made something like this and was put down that it would never work, his got the scoop a little further out and was designed to ram air into it from normal driving.but then this is a site with open minds. I have to keep in mind that some sites are strange. I was taken to task on another site abrevuation for Bobby Smith. Regardless this has restored my faith in air scoops.
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Post by 89newbie on May 15, 2011 6:37:25 GMT -6
Amazing isnt it, thats what I have on order. With the mones to buy a home and people backing out on the car I have for sale I laid it away. Im buying it with junk money ( Junk money= stuff that needs thrown out, but put online or taken to flea market, or returned to store for credit, So far Ive raised another $94.00 and have another $350 coming from car parts. We got rained out at the Flea Market this weekend, but Ill get the balance from the riding tractor I bought a few weeks ago. Im going to take the driving lights and the additional headlamp off of the wildfire and lower the price on it too. |
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Post by 89newbie on May 13, 2011 23:28:41 GMT -6
Well, there is no spring out here in Colorado either. It is staying very cold at night and even has snowed recently. I am not as tough as you and I only have 15 miles on my new scoot while you said 300 miles. Between the cold and the 30 to 50 mile an hour winds I don't seem to get my scoot out to ride. . Put on the snowmoblw suit and ride. |
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Post by 89newbie on May 13, 2011 23:25:41 GMT -6
A 150 can have a restriction in the airbox. Tell me more... |
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Post by 89newbie on May 13, 2011 23:25:07 GMT -6
The 150s are not restricted but the RPMs are capped by the CDI...you can buy CDIs with no rev limiter Ok then here is a question what rpm does a stocker tun and what rpm does a upgrade cdi give you? LOL now that the 50 is being replaced it runs better and better but the engine noise is louder and louder, Little sccor is rnning 8200 on the flat after its warmed uo, gps says this is 42 mph. |
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Post by 89newbie on May 13, 2011 3:21:21 GMT -6
Does it run at all with start fluid? Agree with scootsterz if you have a bad cc seal somewhere it can pull air which will ofset your mixture ratio and cause excessive lean F/A mix which will never burn.
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Post by 89newbie on May 12, 2011 21:18:07 GMT -6
I'm thinking variator and gears. I was also thinking oil cooler for summer. I anticipate it will be a little more than the 50, but then again the poor 50 is in the mountains and WOT is kinda necessary, unless I perfect riding backwards down the hills,, rofl. I do enjoy the questions at the pump and the looks on the faces when I tell them the 50 is getting 88mpg.
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Post by 89newbie on May 12, 2011 21:08:16 GMT -6
First thing would be a Performanace Variator, I opt for the Proidgy Variator it is great, gives you good take offs and does not take away from top end. Also very smooth transition through the throttle range. A lot of the performance variators give you low end and usually take some top end away due to the Angles of the Ramps to Steep keeping the weights low in the ramps and need a lot of rpms to push them up the steep ramp. Then weigh your rollers and try them to get the belt up to 1/8 of the edge of the Variator with good RPMS. As far as the Carb they usually come with 24mm carbs and unless your hopping up the internals of the engine that is plenty of a carb and can re-jet it quite high and or raise and or lower the Diapghgram needle. If you really want TOP END then put in Taller Tranny gears which are right behind the Clutch. Very cheap and easy to put in and get a lot for your bucks. Alleyoop Hey thanks for the response. I wont know what it does till june because im going to be really slammed with all I have to do in 24 days. I Imagine it will accelerate better than the 50 so I really dont know what to expect. |
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Post by 89newbie on May 12, 2011 21:04:25 GMT -6
Break it in first. Jet assortment, roller assortment, drop in foam or k&n style air filter, if yours is paper, with de-restricted airbox. Choose a variator carefully, there are reports of some that lessen your top speed. In my opinion exhaust is poor bang for the buck, maybe 2 mph top speed and unnoticeable until you are wot except for the different sound. If you totally de-restrict it and mod it to run faster, it will easily run fast enough to blow up. I think the difference between optimally tuned and modded to hell and back is about 10 mph and $1500 at which point you could have bought a 250 or a nice slightly used 250 motorcycle that might get better fuel milage and run rings around all 3. If money is tight I'd take tuned over modded any day. My 2 cents. I didnt think 150's were restricted? |
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Post by 89newbie on May 12, 2011 5:43:34 GMT -6
First thing would be a Performanace Variator, I opt for the Proidgy Variator it is great, gives you good take offs and does not take away from top end. Also very smooth transition through the throttle range. A lot of the performance variators give you low end and usually take some top end away due to the Angles of the Ramps to Steep keeping the weights low in the ramps and need a lot of rpms to push them up the steep ramp. Then weigh your rollers and try them to get the belt up to 1/8 of the edge of the Variator with good RPMS. As far as the Carb they usually come with 24mm carbs and unless your hopping up the internals of the engine that is plenty of a carb and can re-jet it quite high and or raise and or lower the Diapghgram needle. If you really want TOP END then put in Taller Tranny gears which are right behind the Clutch. Very cheap and easy to put in and get a lot for your bucks. Alleyoop Hey Dude thanks. Since I dont believe dealer specs im wondering What can I expect from this thing for normal cruzing. It has 14 inch tires which I think will help all overall ride, mileage etc over the 12 inch I am used to. Add says 60 + depending on load. Since i dont have it yet I have no idea what to expect from a 150. I agree tuning and break in miles are a big key to performance. Now that my 50 has over 1000K.M. on it I am still seeing engine performance increases. Since I am moving in a month to 6 weeks I wont have much time to do anything except the attempted suicide we all do in a move  . |
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Post by 89newbie on May 11, 2011 10:25:14 GMT -6
No to the JB weld....find a welder. Double ditto on the no JB Weld!! |
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Pulled it down to get the belt size and look at condition of variator and clutch housing. Belt marked as follows CT154D also marked 90-a
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