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Where is this thread going? Jim I must be nuts thought it was about your line of parts are you going in the canoe business now? ;D

Seems to me when quality is being talked about C.F. Moto comes up as being above the pack. Its kinda like years ago when other makes of cars claimed,"Rides like a Cadillac"! Their 150's water cooled, fuel injected, bigger tires and great braking are above par, but the 250 still has me looking for Spock to appear! No offense meant here Rich or Cookie, I think its a great bike but the cosmetics dont do it for me, Then its could br like cancer, maby it will grow on me. ROFL

This thread reminds me of all the stuff we went through on the mid 70 to the mid 80's cars. I think the requirements are so loop holed the manufacturers do what they can to comply but face it how much emissions can a little 50 or 150 emit? I remember the 302 1978 Mustang with 4 speed was exempt from a cat and actually had that on the sticker the MFG. glued to the valve cover. That combination had nothing except a fuel canister for fumes and a PVC. The v-6 had all the emissions junk you could imagine for the same year. Its a game we all have to jump through the hoop on, and if we can eliminate the loop we are better off. My wildfire has the old style valve cover and have had no problems. The ice bear 50 has all the crap and Im ready to junk that its such a pain in the butt! The JCL 150 has the emissions and while a vent for the engine is fine dont think it needs to go where it is going!

From years of riding, when I have to pass a car I watch the steering tires. If the car is changing lanes on you you can see the front wheels change direction before it becomes a problem. Not in defense oc car drivers but theey dont know how to use mirrors they just aim and go, opps forgot, aim talk and go, opps not correct yet, aim talk, text, and go.

LOL Sprocket it popped into my head there are many scooters that never make it to brake pad replacements from all the homer work done on them.