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Post by Triker98304 on Feb 5, 2011 2:44:29 GMT -6
Ironworks, I bought an inexpensive alarm off ebay. It was about $20.00. I wrote to the seller and ask if the 09 Icebear trike model 150-9 had a plug in for alarm to simply plug into. They said it did, although some members said that was not true, they were correct. I found the plug up over the headlight. Plugged in the alarm and it has worked great for 8 months now. The one i got has an off mode so it does not drain the battery in the garage. On the street I leave it armed. The one I purchased had an immobilizer on it. For $20.00 can not complain. Tonight on ebay they have the " NEW Alarm Security Immobilizer Motorcycle Bike Scooter " I would write to the seller and make sure they know it will fit the IB trike.... Sorry I can not give you the make and model... Hope this helps...Triker98304.
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Post by Triker98304 on Feb 2, 2011 17:11:31 GMT -6
Big Al, Check out the taillight I added on my 150-9 trike. I mounted the license plate down on the flat area, of the rear of the trike. I used lighted license plate bolts to light up that area. The two red dots in the picture are license plate bolt reflectors where the original license plate was mounted. The tail, turn brake light fit the flat area above the license plate @ 2" x 4". I had to install an adapter to separate the running and brake lights. The adapter is like you use wiring the metric car for towing a trailer. The plug for my trailer branches off that section of wiring. Now the back of my trike is visible at night. If you have any questions pm me. Have a great ride...Triker98304 Attachments:
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by: Triker98304 - Dec 12, 2010 2:19:11 GMT -6
Post by Triker98304 on Dec 12, 2010 2:19:11 GMT -6
I have been reading and looking on these forums trying to figure out how "some" guy(s) took a 150cc and made a 16 horsepower engine out of it and made it reliable. What is the horsepower on a 200cc? Or a 250cc. Then tell me if it will bolt into a 157QMJ engine slot and work with the original cvt or a different cvt for the extra power and performance??? How do I get 16 horses pushing/pulling my little trike? I really want to know. Sounds like a fairytale to me or is it possible? Attachments:
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Post by Triker98304 on Nov 26, 2010 16:33:03 GMT -6
Wingcommander Glad you got the trike. I mounted the amp in the glove box on my trike and the speakers had a bracket that bolted on to the mirror mounts. You can get the mirror mount brackets seperately at several of the motorcycle radio outlets. I am sure you'll figure it all out. I will get pics ASAP. Did I rear on the other scooter forum that you were considering a trailer for your trike? I purchased on from Harvor Freight and wired it to the trike. If you need some help on the wirung let me know. I had to install a light converter to get the trailer working. The trailer will be great for the store runs. The total length is less than a car @ 13 feet. So you should not have a problem parking it. PM me if you need more info. Have a great Thnaaksgiving and Holiday season. Triker98304
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by: Triker98304 - Nov 26, 2010 16:20:48 GMT -6
Post by Triker98304 on Nov 26, 2010 16:20:48 GMT -6
Alleyoop Thanks for the info. I will be ordering another belt in the near future. Have frun building the 180cc. I saw the 200cc for $500 advertized by Scrappydog...And MBE offers a crate engine with lots of options. You might check that out. I am checking the 200cc engines out on the web. Maybe the Scooterdoc forum could get a multi unit discount if there is interest. I certainly would consider the new enine. It's onlly money right. Here's hoping the Hoilidays are great for all you scooter guys and gals. Triker98304
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Post by Triker98304 on Nov 23, 2010 16:31:48 GMT -6
Wingcommander, Did you ever get the trike and the radio? Sorry but we got over 2 feet of snow. So when I can dig out the trike I will post some pics. Maybe spring...These trikes are not much of a snow plow. Triker98304
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by: Triker98304 - Nov 23, 2010 16:28:29 GMT -6
Post by Triker98304 on Nov 23, 2010 16:28:29 GMT -6
Alleyoop The belt was the one from Scrappydog, it was a Bando brand belt, can not read much else on the melted parts.. I will try the belts web site you provided. I have put about everyting back to stock except the CDI, coil, plug. Hopeully the stock belt will last this time. We got about 2 1/2 feet of snow last night. So it will be a while beefore I can dig out. These trikes are not much of a snow plow. Did you get a new mp3 player to go on your trike? HAVE A GREAT TURKEY DAY. Triker98304
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Post by Triker98304 on Nov 20, 2010 23:12:52 GMT -6
I got the radio installed. I will post pics tomorrow if the snow hold off. I got the Shark MSA-200 from Gooddeals18.com. Here is the ordering info. I got the radio installed. I will post pics tomorrow if the snow holds off. They have a 1 year warranty. The amp went out I e-mailed them and they sent a new amp with in 1 week. On my trike I put the amp in the glove compartment. The cone speakers mounted right to the mirror mounts and the 100 watt amp cranks out some sounds and the radio feature is great. You can even run your MP3 thru the system. It took me about 45 mins to hook up all the wires hiding them under the trike, running the wires thru the little cubby-holes etc. Looks and sound great.
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by: Triker98304 - Nov 20, 2010 22:54:25 GMT -6
Post by Triker98304 on Nov 20, 2010 22:54:25 GMT -6
The belt was suppose to be kevalar... But that did not stop the belt from melting all over the clutch, varator, rollers and gum up the variator shaft. I basically got a cheap replacement clutch and variator. I can put the "performance clutch and 1500 RPM spring on and at least ride the trike for now. Can't affprd to tear up too many more parts like that... Does any of you scooter mechanics know what would cause the belt to break up and melt all over the case???(See the pic above) The bearing on the clutch plates seems ok. Of course the variator section was toaast and stuck inside the CVT cover on the variator/engine shaft. Triker98304
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Post by Triker98304 on Nov 20, 2010 22:41:58 GMT -6
Scrappydog has a 200cc engine for around $500.00. Check it out. There are other engine builders on the net. Check with this forum to get info on the engines and the companies that build them. Check out MBE, www.mbemotorsports.com/catalog/productthey have a 180cc I think I saw it the other night. A complete engine already built sounds good to me. As my upgrades went not very good. If you build your own with a big bore kit take lots of pictures to share with all of us. Triker98304.
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by: Triker98304 - Nov 5, 2010 17:27:12 GMT -6
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The last number on the belt they sent was 32 not 30. Have you changed the clutch on your trike? I got the "performance clutch and I am thinking about going back to the original clutch and main spring, the 1000 instead of the 1500 RPM spring. All I see is one mark on the clutch slider. Nothing that indicates it jammed. The variator is all black and doesnot show a problem. But literally the belt melted. Any ideas? Triker98304
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by: Triker98304 - Nov 5, 2010 16:15:02 GMT -6
Post by Triker98304 on Nov 5, 2010 16:15:02 GMT -6
It was a Bando, Kevalar 743 20 32 from Scrappydog. And I only have 750 miles on my trike. The CVT cover was installed for only the last 20 miles. The melted rubber coated the variator and clutch plates note how black they are in the picture. Any idea what will disolve the rubber so I can clean them up and keep them for spares? I am checking to find out what caused the problem before I reassemble the trike do not want to keep buying parts. And keep breaking down...Those long walks are not good. Thanks for the reply. Triker98304
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by: Triker98304 - Nov 4, 2010 19:18:56 GMT -6
Post by Triker98304 on Nov 4, 2010 19:18:56 GMT -6
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After 100 miles of riding I put the dust cover over the belt on my Icebear Trike 150-9. I got about 7 miles from home while enjoying the ride and I started to slow down. The engine raced but I was not moving. So I walked back about 2 miles to a phone and called for help. Got the trike trailered back to the house and found I had cremated the belt. I mean the belt melted down to nothing. It took out the pull start gear head that bolts on to the variator nut, it rounded off the teeth of the aluminum gear; the variator is toast and the clutch has melted rubber all over the plates that squeeze the belt. Something jammed and broke the belt allowing it to sling hot rubber all over everything. So I will be ordering a new variator and sliders, clutch, belt and pull start piece. Has any other trike owner had a problem like this? I was able to clean off the engine shaft that the variator bolts to. It was coated with rubber and would not allow the variator teeth to engage the shaft... I had ridden over 100 miles with the variator and belt replaced and only put the dust cover on 20 miles at the most. The CVT got so hot you could not touch it. And the rubber melted that is pretty hot... Any one have any ideas what is jamming or causing the problem??? How do you remove rubber from the variator and clutch plates??? Thanks Triker98304 Attachments:
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Post by Triker98304 on Sept 13, 2010 21:21:40 GMT -6
Here is the response I got asking about the DR PULLEY Variator. The transmissions on these vehicles cannot give more power (or by extension, top speed) in and of themselves. When modifying your transmission, you're actually tuning the power you already have to one use or another by shifting where the RPM power band lies. In a nutshell, you're either tuning for top end at the expense of low end, or vice versa, and the middle ground gives an unsatisfactory amount of both - which is the reason you're wanting to mod it in the first place! The only true way to get more power out of your system is to alter the air/fuel system of the vehicle: air intake, carburetor (or not, if your system uses EFI), cylinder head, big bore kit, and exhaust. Altering any one (or preferably more) of these will increase the overall amount of power the engine is capable of producing and then you can tune the transmission as you see fit. The good news is: it really works. The bad news is: it isn't always inexpensive, but it's less expensive than a bigger scooter! To answer your question, the Dr Pulley variator has the potential to give you more top end, but it's no guarantee right out the box. The variator is larger than the stock one in diameter, and therefore a slightly larger than stock belt can ride up farther on the ramp and give you potentially more top speed than a stock variator. The key is the slightly larger in circumference belt that is longer so that you can take advantage of the extra variator real estate. A secondary consideration is the slider weights, as you've discovered. Lighter weights shift the RPM power range to the low end, at the expense of the top speed (regardless of whether they're roller or sliders, they affect the transmission in a similar fashion). Heavier weights will shift the power curve to the top end, at the expense of low end grunt, acceleration, and power when under load. Keep in mind that heavier weights do not necessarily equal higher speeds. One of the reasons that lighter weights do not give higher top speeds is because their lighter mass (weight) does not allow them to overcome through centrifugal force the spring tension of the main large clutch spring pressure placed on the belt. Your clutch main spring is constantly working against the slider/roller weights to prevent them from "shifting" into higher gear ratios. If the spring tension is higher than the centrifugal outward force, then the belt will never extend all the way out on the variator and you lose top speed (you'll probably have great low end takeoff speed, though!) Heavier weights can overcome the spring tension and allow the belt to ride all the way up on the variator, giving you the full variator range to work with, and therefore the highest potential speed the transmission will allow. The problem is that it will try to "shift" you very quickly to a higher gear, kind of like starting a stick shift car in 2nd gear from a dead stop and trying to climb a hill: it may get going but it won't be fast and the vehicle won't like it much! By modding the air/fuel system and giving the engine more overall power, you're gaining true power than can be used in a balanced CVT system for both low end and top speed. Transmission mods alone will generally only net you a couple of mph at most and often require a sacrifice in other ways. Engine mods give power at all levels and sacrifice nothing aside from the cost of the mod. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions. Regards, Michael Baird Owner - Buggy Parts NW Thank you Michael Baird for the information. Guess I need a bigger engine Triker98304
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Post by Triker98304 on Sept 9, 2010 0:46:26 GMT -6
Ok Group ! Another Question??? I am asking for your collective knowledge What are the differences in the Prodigy, NCY, KOSO and Leloita variators??? On my Icebear trike 150-9 I have had the original variator from China. An unknown and a KOSO variator. Installing the unknown and the KOSO variator I lost 15 mph. So can you=all help me understand the difference between the variators??? Looking for more top end speed... Triker98304
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