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Post by 2stroked on May 5, 2016 19:42:40 GMT -6
@ jaxrhapsody, Louisville Kentucky, or where???
Also, Detroit's fire on the River used to be friggin amazing.....
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Post by 2stroked on May 5, 2016 10:49:25 GMT -6
Alleyoop and I have been saying just that. My 257 Linhai starts without an air filter, IF it's in tune. If the tune is off, it will NOT start without the filter. You NEED a filter attached to make it run right.
Trying to find a way to get my thoughts across........
Oh, here we go. If you open a beer can, and take a drink, it's easy to control how much gets to your mouth. If you open the same beer, and put a shotgun hole in the bottom of the can, itnpours in your mouth way way too fast......
The air filter is the bottom of the can, and it being off is the shotgun hole. Without the filter, WAY WAY WAY more AIR is flowing in. To compensate for that, you would need to dump more gas into the carb. IMHO, I would wait till the filter gets there, or just try to hillbilly engineer one for the time being. Your engine is a precision instrument, if one setting is off, the rest is not going to work correctly.
Using a makeshift filter could get you started again. I have used old washcloths held in place by wrapping it around the carb mouth, then tying it TIGHTLY in place with a piece of wire. I did that on a 225 TTR dirt bike while waiting for a replacement breather system for a costumer, just to help get it done faster. By the time the filter assy arrived, I already had the carb in a decent tune. Of course once the filter got in I had to lessen the fuel flow.
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Post by 2stroked on May 4, 2016 20:14:24 GMT -6
Thank much olivertwisted. My wife and I are really missing the scoot!!! The CVT has been out for almost a week and when I get it fixed.....it's raining cats and dogs.Humph.
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Post by 2stroked on May 4, 2016 15:14:13 GMT -6
Good. Until there is a filter on there, it's going to cause sporadic running. Try the tape trick I mentioned just to get it going. Once the filter arrives and is installed, you will need to readjust the carb to compensate for the difference.
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Post by 2stroked on May 4, 2016 14:36:53 GMT -6
Nice. I know it's new, but clean the crap out if it. Anytime I have to order a carb, I clean it extensively before I put it in. Maybe I am just a little anal retentive.
After benching the carb and setting the idle and the mixture screw, reattach it, if you can't find an air cleaner that will work, make one from an old peanut butter jar or something just to get it going.
As I said earlier, there will need to be an air box or filter of SOMEKIND on there. Even if it's the factory air box without a filter. The engine is designed to have a certain intake pressure If you let too much air in there, you will need to dump extra fuel in there to compensate.He%% if nothing else, put a piece of duct tape across the front of the carb, with an opening at least the size of a nickel It will mimick the effect of the air box.
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Post by 2stroked on May 4, 2016 13:34:45 GMT -6
You take care of yourself, and rest up. It wouldn't do you any good to have the scoot running like a top, and not be able to ride!! That's like an extra torture. Trust me I know. I finally got the variator nut in the mail, and now it's pouring the rain like pi$$ pouring from a boot.Humph!
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Post by 2stroked on May 4, 2016 12:18:26 GMT -6
^^^^^^^He makes it sound so easy huh??? It is really, if you pay attention to what you are doing.
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Post by 2stroked on May 4, 2016 11:11:39 GMT -6
First of all, Alleyoop has been dead on from the first post. You are able to tell the people that want to help from the trolls quite easily. If it's good information that makes sense and isn't smart arse redderick then listen to that person. If it's smart arse bull stuff that makes no sense and sounds dangerous or nonsensical don't listen.
With any problem thread on any forum you will find arse hats that just want to confuse and anger the OP for their own amusement. Darned trolls.
If it feels like someone is losing their patience, it is because they expect you to follow the suggestion s they give exactly, with out skipping or adding steps. If you do something that someone didn't tell you to and you don't mention doing it, it makes it harder for us to be able to help you. If, for instance, someone tells you to adjust the mixture screw, and you do adjust it, but along the way you also adjust the idle screw all the way in or out, it hurts the diagnoses. I ain't trying to be one of those arse hats, just trying to help steer you down the right path. When diagnosing, or tuning these engines, it is important to only change or adjust one thing at a time. If that doesn't work, move to the next item. See, if you go to do one thing, and end up doing two things, and it doesn't start, which thing is causing it to not start, thing one or thing two. See, simplicity...that's what we are after. Well that and helping you get back on two wheels.
Let us know how it goes
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Post by 2stroked on May 4, 2016 10:54:29 GMT -6
It's kinda hard to see things clearly in that pic. The picture that Alley posted shows the proper angle of the butterfly in an idle position. I would think, that as long as one of the pilot hole are uncovered that would be a great place to start.
Do you know what size and type of carb you are using. I only ask cuz of the large cylinder you have installed right now. I am not sure about the small 4t motors, but on a 50cc 2t, throwing a 72cc BBK on it, just changing the jets is good. Then again, a kit that large might NEED a larger than normal carb.
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Post by 2stroked on May 4, 2016 7:57:42 GMT -6
OOPS,!!!?
My bad. Get feeling better. Sciatica is excruciating. I know. The crawling firey burning is the worst.
Hopefully you get feeling good enough to work on it in a day or two.
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Post by 2stroked on May 3, 2016 20:42:11 GMT -6
When you are looking down the intake end of the carb, the butterfly should test near closed, with the first pilot hole exposed,and enough gap for air.
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Post by 2stroked on May 3, 2016 19:46:31 GMT -6
Try to put the idle screw back WHERE IT WAS FROM THE FACTORY.
When you turn the mixture screw all the way in, dobit gently, don't tighten it all they way down like a loose screw, to could hurt the seat and needle.
Start like Alleyoop said. After turning the mixture screw all the way in, back it out one to one and a half turns, then try to start the bike.
YOU WILL NEED SOMEKIND OF AIR FILTER OR AIR BOX ATTACHED TO THE CARB Otherwise you will be pulling in too much air.TOI MUCH AIR IS NOT GOOD. Without a filter or air box, your engine will be a bear to tune right. If you plan on using a Uni filter or an open filter or whatever, it needs to be attached while you are tuning the motor otherwise, it's going to need to be adjusted again when you put the filter on it.
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Post by 2stroked on May 3, 2016 19:01:29 GMT -6
Thank you to those that have, do, and will risk it all and sacrifice themselvea, to honor and uphold the American freedom that we all love.
My Grandfather was in WW1 and lost his left arm, twice. The first time he was shot, it was right above his wrist, they amputated what was left of his hand. 3 days later he was fighting again. A couple weeks after that he was shot again, in the left arm at his elbow. This time the took his arm from the elbow down, and sent home home with honors.
My Father, God rest his soul, fought in Korea. He said that he was part of stuff that he would never forget, and saw things that stayed with him till he died in '01. My father servednhis time in Korea, and the did another tour, but was stationed in Georgia. He later retired with Full Honors. Dad wasbso against the Army beforebhe passed, that he refused to go to the VA, and just went to normal hospitals. He wouldn't talk about his time in Korea. He made me promise, the day I turned sixteen that I would NOT enroll in the services. I made the promise, but it was a moot point, when I was seventeen, I was in a wreck that F-ed me up too bed to be allowed to serve my country.
I wanted to be in the National Guards, because Dad talked highly of them, But I am seriously busted up. Was told I would be in a wheel chair before thirty. Showed them!!!
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Post by 2stroked on May 3, 2016 18:49:58 GMT -6
Get a couple barn cats!!!!
For real though, those electronic ultrasonic emitters work for mole mice rats and the like. I believe it messes with their ears. My dogs and the cat don't seem to mind it too bad. The older male chiuaua will stare at it at every now and the bark and pounce at it.
We had a bad problem with those tiny a$$ moles and ground hogs. That thing was given to me by a family member that said it didn't work. So, I had to plug it in and see for myself. If it's in the crawl space, it works the best. It started in a shed that holds corn, and after that was mouse free I figured it would work for the other things.
No brand on it, and I would really rather not crawl under the house to take a pic, but it's white, has a speaker grill looking thing on the front and a bug in a circle with a line through it like a no smoking sign.
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Post by 2stroked on May 3, 2016 18:39:18 GMT -6
Someone pull his string hes not talking!!
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