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In other words it could be worse. Thanks for the updates! I have been enlightened.

This is a rant! Since Some have inquired on my other post here it is in detail. Virginia has changed moped laws forcing us to register as motorcycles. They have done this as per clerk at motor vehicles in two steps. The first is if bike comes with a speedometer that is capable of registering over 30 mph it is a motorcycle. 2. If ridden on any road that has a posted speed of over 35 mph it has to be registered, inspected insured and tagged motorcycle.Resulting costs .1. register and state tag. $90 to $100 I will use $95 Local tag $10.00 Total $105. Insurance Average $120 total now $225. State inspection $18.00, total now $243.00. Next year, local personal property tax on bike= 5% of NADA Motorcycle, and they use retail, which is always high, tag $10.00 (current price), State tag $25, inspection, current $18.00 Insurance once again using $120.00 to take subsequent year to $173,before tax lets guess 30 bucks so resultant is over $200.00 each year. At $4.00/gallon thats = 50 gallons of fuel. Now further facts on this area. Many people bought mopeds to go to work at low paying jobs or to avoid taxi fees because they dont have the money, cannot get a regular job because of whatever, and live hand to mouth doing side work type things or on some form of assistance. Most bikes are bought on lay away. Many people ride bicycles but the Cops enforce the light stuff and ticket bicycle riders that dont comply at night. ( Only differance between the cops here and cons is less tatoo's). Simply put many folks can not afford any thing else. I have a frienf that bought his Wildfire to go to his second job 22 miles away, but he lost the job now because the road has 45 & 55 MPH speed limits and he is so strapped he canot do the registration.

Maby im nuts but I dont see that much delta between 250 and 300. When the 500 is available Ill look at them but for now Im going 250 water cooled. (Because Va has made 50 cc about illegal I started looking). Settled out on 250 liquid cooled. Considerations, mountain roads and gravel (300 cc seems to like 10 inch rear tire), which leaves me uneasy. Also 8 C.M. shorter wheelbase on 250 will be better in the good paved turns and the 13 inch tires will handle gravel and dirt better. Pay load on shorter bike is 30 lb more than the bigger one. Sent E-mail to Scrappy Dog about parts, no problem. Other than running my big fat mouth I think what I am saying is 250 & 300 are going to be close on Hi-way, both run with traffic. Fuel consumption 250 less than 300 by 8MPG. Initioal Dollar Delta, about a $1000.00 bucks. Loss with 250, big wind diverting faring, Im a windshield guy anyway. Last Harley Road King had windshield that will do.

Scooter company Millasia great price found three feedbacks 1 no complaints, 1 ranking them aroound 135 or so out of 190 something, last one no complaints. Any experience out there with them ??

I was thinking that might be the way to go, but want to see if anyone rides their big china bike a lot of miles. I dont want to go back to a full motor got rid of my Road King las summer. Dont like the engine heat on hot days and definately do not like the weight high up when stopped. Thanks for the reply.

Wildfires shhhh we had the rich guy that owns the big place further up on the mountain have his wood burner(spark away from him) and burned up 3000 acres!