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Post by kz1000st on Apr 3, 2014 6:00:18 GMT -6
What I love about ALL Victorys is their reliability. Owners are popping 100,000 miles with zero mechanical issues. It shows that America can build a solid motorcycle afterall.
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 2, 2014 13:26:12 GMT -6
$5000 is still an obscene amount. What I'd like to know is if they sell for that overseas. It would probably explain the Honda SH150i being the leading selling scooter in Italy. Also buying a Morphous for over $6000 OTD and unloading it a year later for $2400 is too rich for me too, so I hear you.
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 2, 2014 11:42:16 GMT -6
yes it's the badge that sells, because they have proven their quality throughout the years... it's really difficult to compare Harleys,Beamers,mercedes etc to only these ------> 2008 Eagle Milano 150- 7750 miles 2009 Honda Rebel 250- 9500 miles (Hers) 2009 CF Moto Fashion- 7793 miles 2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 3169 miles just so incomparable!!! They are comparable to a $2400 Yamaha Morphous that the previous owner couldn't get rid of fast enough. And yet. Somehow I've read and seen numerous Harleys break down. If you were a motorcyclist you would know that. Since you aren't your opinion doesn't count. Second. There are only 30,000 scooters sold in this country annually. I guarantee, guarantee, less than 5,000 of those are Vespas. Much less. Harleys have never proven their quality-ever. Go to Modern Vespa and read. They break down too. Two limericks from the 1930s You'll never wear out an Indian Scout Or its brother the Indian Chief. They're built like rocks To take hard knocks. It's the Harleys that cause all the grief. Harley Davidson made of tin. Ride one out and push it in. Current stab: 85% of all Harleys built since 1980 are still on the road. The other 15% managed to make it back to the shop. My question wasn't for you. What you don't know is fairly evident. Riding being one. I was asking the question to the person where Vespa sells most. SJ Rainsford in Britain. |
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 2, 2014 10:24:10 GMT -6
My point is this. In this Country it's the badge that sells. Harleys aren't "the Mercedes of Motorcycles" yet if you ask a HOG owner he'll say they are. You and I know better. In Europe they have a different mind set. They sell Smart cars by the boatloads based on fuel efficiency and reliability. Transportation devices are neither toys or status symbols, as much, like here. Rainsford introduced us to www.lexmoto.co.uk in Britain. This model www.lexmoto.co.uk/SB50QT-16(B08).php costs $1400 American This one www.lexmoto.co.uk/ZN50QT-K.php about $1600. I'm sure over there these must undercut Vespa, have dealer backing and must work right. Yet Vespa is still selling like hotcakes. Yes, I'm sure Piaggios must sell as well or better based on price. But heck, Vespa sells 200,000 world wide. Harley sells 260,000 worldwide and half sell here. Plus in Britain you don't need a bike license under 125cc so a scooter is a big deal. I'd just like a Brit's point of view. Also read the customer reviews. |
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 2, 2014 9:42:15 GMT -6
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 2, 2014 8:41:27 GMT -6
Wait, maybe we need the viewpoint of a European. Pardon me Mr. SJrainsford, what is the opinion of Vespa vs. other brands on your side of the ocean? |
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 2, 2014 8:28:22 GMT -6
I realize I'm a cheap, lowlife Barbarian but the thing that always frosts me is the prices they ask for the things. They sell 200,000 of them they said, probably mostly in Europe I presume. Those guys must either be made of money or import regs kill the competition. A freakin Piaggio Typhoon 50 ( www.piaggiousa.com/scooter/typhoon-50.html )is $1999 and has a Vespa engine. OK the engine might be built in Thailand or Vietnam, but even still it's a Vespa. So you're paying almost twice as much for a pressed steel frame. Nutty. Don't get me started on 150cc scooters at 300 Ninja prices. Even this is a major bargain over $3700. www.piaggiousa.com/scooter/fly-50-4v.html |
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 2, 2014 6:49:51 GMT -6
Just one of many more to come. As it breaks in you'll see it become even stronger and more flexible. My Bashan is a totally different animal now than it was when new or even at 2,000 miles. Things will loosen, work harden and settle in. I'm glad it's working out for you but I'm not surprised.
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 1, 2014 15:34:05 GMT -6
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 1, 2014 11:36:53 GMT -6
You have to ask Cyborg. No seriously. Any auto parts store, KMart, Sears.
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 1, 2014 11:26:24 GMT -6
I'm glad you got it running. Enjoy the ride. Lance had some good scooters. Not as good as the new SYM built ones, but they weren't too bad either. The one I sold was built pretty well. I was sorry to see it go.
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 1, 2014 9:52:34 GMT -6
We had rain Saturday and Sunday and I thought, "Great the salt is getting washed off." Sunday night we got a quarter inch of hail-like snow and Monday morning the plows were out dumping a nice, fresh layer of salt on the highway. I got to practice my swear words. Monday the temperature climbed into the forties, most of the snow melted and my roads are nice and white again.
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 1, 2014 9:05:11 GMT -6
If you have an Advance Auto Parts store nearby take the old battery there and they should have a matching one. I use their batteries all the time with good luck.
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 1, 2014 8:49:41 GMT -6
We better watch Rich though. He still wants that BMW.
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 1, 2014 6:05:06 GMT -6
Dude. You've said this before. I ride my 10" wheeled 150cc at 40 mph+. I wave. The gyroscopic effect of a spinning wheel is what keeps everybody upright. You have concerns, fine, but the pure science involved is wrong. Nobody is trying to kill you off. If your next line is "And what happens if I hit something that deflects the wheel" that can happen at any time to any one on two wheels. Both Virtuous Saintly Scooter Riders and Satan's Hated Motorcyclists.
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