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Post by rob63 on Jul 31, 2012 14:21:20 GMT -6
My first thoughts would be a fuse blown, unfortunately I`m unfamiliar with your model so can`t tell you where to find them on the scoot. There will probably be someone along shortly who can advise better
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Post by rob63 on Jul 31, 2012 13:57:03 GMT -6
I`m not quite sure if it`s do-able. Besides the worry of a toggle handling the current going through an ignition switch, there is the configuration issue. Also one of your black wires should be the kill wire which is normally black and white. On a normal ignition switch, in the off position the green ground and black/white kill are connected. In the on position the red positive feed and the black accessory are connected. Depending on how the 3 prongs are configured would depend on how you could connect up the wires. You could attach the red feed on one terminal and the black accessory on another to give you a simple on/off switch, but then unless you have a separate kill switch there will be no way of stopping the engine.
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Post by rob63 on Jul 31, 2012 13:44:06 GMT -6
Difficult to know really without pulling the top end off, although the metal shards don`t sound too good. If rings wear out it`s normally a gradual process which doesn`t leave shards or any noticeable size fragments. You might`ve broke a ring in which case there may be damage to the bore which would require a replacement or rebore. There is of course a worse case scenario where the shards are a sign of damage to the bottom end. Ideally pull the top end and check for damage, when thats off you`ll have a chance to also check the crank for free movement and/or excessive play.
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Post by rob63 on Jul 28, 2012 15:31:57 GMT -6
Just noticed from the wiring diagram that if you`ve unplugged your kill switch then even when you turn the ignition switch off you won`t have a feed through the kill wire to the cdi. If you plug in the kill switch again, set it to run and put your jumper lead on. Start the engine then turn ignition to off to see if it cuts the engine. If not then press the kill switch to see if that cuts it out ? Just wondering if this is some kind of earth to chassis/engine problem ?
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Post by rob63 on Jul 28, 2012 8:45:40 GMT -6
Here`s a link to a Crossfire 150 manual www.buggynuts.com/service%20manuals/CrossFire150%20OWNERSMANUAL.pdfHave a look at the wiring diagram and double check to make sure all is correct on yours. It seems that in the start key position it`s cutting out that green earth/feed which makes me agree with Sprocket, either faulty/wrong key switch, or wires on the wrong terminals of the switch.
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Post by rob63 on Jul 26, 2012 3:39:44 GMT -6
Electrics are all black magic to me but here`s my two penneth. At some point in your system an earth is crossing over to a positive wire when it`s not supposed to, either in a unit or by bare wires touching each other in the loom. Bearing in mind that I`ve no idea if the wiring diagram in the service manual is identical to the wiring on your bike, but looking at the wiring diagram it seems that the battery positive feed goes via a thick red wire to the starter solenoid, then a thinner fused red wire (presumably spliced onto the thicker one), goes to the main fuse box assembly, through another fuse, then splits to two red wires. One goes to the regulator/rectifier, the other goes through a multiplug to another multiplug attached to the main speed/fuel/temp display on the dashboard. It might help to try and isolate by disconnecting each of the components in turn (reg/rect, dashboard, starter solenoid) and switch on the ignition each time to see if the fuse still blows. This may help to isolate the problem to a certain unit or to a certain point in the loom. As Cruiser mentioned, the black/white wire is the kill wire and will be showing an earth with the ignition and kill switch off. If the wire shows an earth with both ignition switch and kill switch in the run position then it might be wise to disconnect the kill switch to check if that is causing the fuse to blow. Good luck
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Post by rob63 on Jul 18, 2012 11:56:02 GMT -6
Cheers buddy, I`ll be very interested to see what the problem turns out to be. If it`s of any use I recall that if you count the outside link plates on a standard 139qmb cam chain there is 41.
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Post by rob63 on Jul 17, 2012 11:59:07 GMT -6
This is just a possibility, but maybe someone has tinkered with the engine before you got hold of it. Maybe they`ve put in the wrong crank or cam chain, realised their mistake when they went to rebuild the top end and just chucked it to one side ? At this stage I`d be tempted to find another engine and worry about this one when you`ve got more time....or count the links on the chain and compare with the link count on a normal 139qmb chain
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Post by rob63 on Jul 17, 2012 9:12:08 GMT -6
New engine we put in had a good crank so we put it in with a new cyclinder(piston and rings),new cyclinder head(all from Parts for scooters). It certainly is baffling. Just pondering on the engine you`re fitting, was it a previously used engine, and did it have a barrel and head on it before you replaced with new parts ? Or did it come minus the barrel and head ?
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Post by rob63 on Jul 15, 2012 12:15:34 GMT -6
Hmmm very strange, I haven`t come across a 1/4" difference in crankcase measurements before. Just to confirm, looking at the simplistic pic below, the top diagram is how things should be when viewed from the flywheel side. The bottom diagram is how the camchain is in your engine ? photo hosting
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Post by rob63 on Jul 14, 2012 13:49:18 GMT -6
Have to agree with KZ, check the engine numbers first to see if you`ve got the same types. The standard 50cc gy6 engine should be 139qmb marked on the crankcase.
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Post by rob63 on Jul 13, 2012 11:36:55 GMT -6
Cheers buddy
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Post by rob63 on Jul 13, 2012 10:06:42 GMT -6
I`ve just finished my Adly chop project and got it MOT`d and taxed. Took it for a spin and noticed a lack of guts from maybe half to full throttle, plus it sometimes pops back through the exhaust when throttling off so I`m presuming it`s running slighly lean. The A/F screw has been set at 3 turns out which seems to be the best setting to give a nice idle and initial throttle response, however I`ve replaced the standard airbox with a K+N filter and the exhaust has been chopped with a lot less baffling, so more free flow. I`m assuming the main jet is around the standard GY6 size of about 107, any suggestions as to what size I should go up to with the mods I`ve mentioned. I was going to buy a few and play around with sizes but wondered if anyone had any recommendations before I do that. Cheers big ears
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Post by rob63 on Jul 7, 2012 13:59:01 GMT -6
Yes you`ll suddenly start feeling some resistance when you pump the lever, and it`ll slowly get better. Sometimes you have to pump the lever almost in slow motion at first until you feel pressure, can sometimes take 15 minutes or more. Leave the bleed screw tight and the master cylinder cover off, you should be able to see little bubbles pop back up through the fluid in the master cylinder. If that doesn`t work, pull the lever to about half way through its travel and put a cable tie around it and the handlebar grip, then leave for a few hours and it`ll probably self bleed back up through the cylinder.
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Post by rob63 on Jul 6, 2012 2:47:19 GMT -6
If the nut and the clutch bell are off then the clutch/pulley assembly should rotate freely on the shaft and pull off easily, if it`s not rotating freely on the shaft then it could be why your belts are shredding. Get a three legged puller on there, might distort the pulleys but I`d hazard a guess that the bearings are a bit seized or even collapsed, so you might need a new assembly.
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