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Thank you sir,

I'll give-em a try, I had heard of them but was not sure if they would really work or not.

Thank you gentlemen, I dont want to seem like an echo in any way or one of those know it all types but it is funny that you zugzug would mention trying the sliders in the old Variator, I was thinking about that on my way home from work today, and wondering how that would play out, my thoughts were exactly as you descibed....Thank you for the info. and the confirmation on this........!

Dr. Jr Thank you also for you confirmation and alternative solution info as well, I have noticed an increase in my MPG, believe it or not the last 2 times I figured it I was in the 90 MPG range +/- maybe 2 MPG either way, and to me that is awesome, the last time I filled up I had about 85 miles since the last fill up and gas here is $2.56 per gal. and it only took $2.32 worth to fill completely back up, so I would figure this close to 88-90 MPG, ya gotta love that.!

Well, guys I think I've desided to try the old var. with the new 13g. sliders just for curiosity sake, but when I get a new free flowing exhaust and either a larger carb. and intake or just a larger rejetting of the current one along with a better flowing filter, I will put the setup I currently have back in if I like the way the sliders in the old var runs out for now, I think if I can bring the HP up by 1-2 HP it will probably pull my current setup very nice and due what I want it too, I will post my results with the old var. and 13g slider set up as soon as I get a chance to make the swap hopefully Tuesday, "if the Lords willing and the Creeks dont rise" as we say around these parts....!

I am enjoying the tinkering with this scooter so much........I know they can be a pain sometime but it is highly satisfying when it gets worked out and Ginning again.........!
Now I just need to get my headlight to where I want it and that will make me very happy.

And I think I may have to replace my front tire also, at first I just thought it was out of balance but I think it is actually out of round possibly, I will take it to my local Motorcycle shop and see it they can balance it and check it for roundness before I do anything.

Thanks A Million all.....
Sincerely, Shan

others here are full of knowledge when it comes to these issues so I would like for you to explain this one please, as you know I had 16 gram rollers in my variator, it came stock that way, I took 3 of them and drilled material from the inside until each of the 3 weighed 14 grams, and with the combination of 3 16 gram & 3 14 gram rollers I had 15 gram total weight affect in the var. with this combination my scooter would turn roughly 7300-7500 or so.. @ 58 - 60 MPH and would hit 65 MPH on a slight decline @ 8200-8300 RPM's which I only did a couple of times knowing the redline was @8000 RPM's

Since then I have put one of scrappy's 115mm var. with 13 gram sliders in it, and a Gates powerlink belt 842-20-30, my acceleration from stand still did increase++ which is nice, but with the 13 gram sliders I figured I would have to be careful and not over rev the engine, but in reallity the opposite has been the case, it now runs 6800-7000 RPM's @ 60 mph and that is all it will do I lost top end and the RPM's dropped instead of increasing, I dont mind the top speed of 60 so much but it does seem to struggle on even the slightest incline now, unless there is NO wind and the road is very flat I cant get much past 50-53MPH now after the Var. Slinder & belt change out, it seems the my engine is now below it's power band (Max Hp RPM"s) I'm unsure which way I should go in trying to remedy this problem.

I love the 115mm Var. and 13gram sliders for the extra takeoff gearing, but how does this set up cost me top speed and cost me RPM loss at the same time? this is the puzzler to me.

Can you please shed some light on this for me and advise me in the direction I should go in trying to get my engine back to the 7.3K - 7.5K RPM range, I hit the bottom of even a slight hill @ 60 MPH and will come to the top of the slight hill @ 45-48 MPH & 5000-5200RPM's.

I'm thinking of trying my old rollers in the new better 115mm variator just to see what happens, but I am also thinking that I may need to go down to 12 gram sliders becaus emaybe the RPM loss is due to the difference in the overall Dia. of the Variator being 115mm instead of the original 107mm, it seems that maybe I'm getting my 60MPH at lower RPM's because the belt can ride higher in the variator thus increasing my overdrive ratio, this would be fine if the engine pulled good at the lower rpm's but it seems like loosing those 500-700RPM's has made a pretty noticable difference in the pulling power of my engine at 55-60MPH.

Thanks in advance for any & all advise.

Shan in Super HOT Super DRY Central Texas...........WOW..........it's bad right now.......!

Thank you sir, when you said " Sixty has some really nice LED's"
who are you refering too? Who is "Sixty" ?

"it does sound like this guy is honest and trying to do the right thing anf that means a lot! Dr. JR"[/quote]


You bet it does, if the new bulb he sends isn't any better I'll just chaulk it up as "ya win some and ya loose some" might just be junk bulbs to start with.

I sure wish I knew if one of those H4 Halogen Bulbs will work on my scoot without draining the battery, I bought a push/pull light switch today and I'm seriously thinking about doing some southern engineering on my light system so I can run one of the H4 bulbs directly off the battery when I make my early morning ride to work and then just leave it off during the day and only have the 2 194 wedge bulbs as my daytime running lights or maybe even replace both of them with a couple of the 1157 LED replacements, they are very bright but dont pull much current at all, I will have some very bright lights on this thing before it's all said and done, I'm not an electrical expert but I have tinkered with it a little, probably just enough to get myself in trouble actually.....LOL

Any good ideas on the subject for a novice like myself?

Shan

I only have 590 miles but it has acted this way from day one after it is riden a few miles and heated up, for what ever reason it has never returned to the lowest range after it is hot, it always starts off in what I would call 2nd gear, instead of 1st.

I had a scare earlier today, was on the highway doing aboit 55 MPH and all the sudden I started smelling burnt oil..........I looked down and smoke was boiling out from the air intake vent below the front of my seat, I was about 6-7 miles from home and thought Oh My.......! this is just great valve cover gasket blew..........! I stopped got off and looked over everything and could not see any oil leaking so I decided to just cruise on back home nice and easy, well got back fine and to make a long stary short here, it was my PCV Tube that goes up to the air cleaner box, It had a split in it about 2" long and was melted like crazy, that stuff looked like thin junk Vacuum tubing, so I replaced it with some 3/16" fuel line and made a few other adjustments while I had all that plastic off, like......blue locktite on intake nuts being that I had already lost & replaced one of them, so I replaced both with new Locking nuts and put some blue locktite even on them, went over many of the other bolts and checked tightness, so everything is in good order now best I can tell.

I changed my engine and gear oil, I'm running Valvoline Max Life 10w-40 Semi-Synthetic in the engine and I put PX3 Performance Full Synthetic 75W-90 Gear oil in the gear box, I also added about 2 Tbls of Greased Lightening Super Slick Teflon additive in with the engine oil, that stuff is the slickest lube I have ever seen and I use it in just about every engine I have, I have a Briggs 18.5 HP engine on a riding mower that has been abused like crazy out here in the country and after 12 years it still uses no oil and runs like a new engine, so as you can tell I'm sold on the stuff.

Been a good day all in all....
God Bless, Shan

Well, I got my new Variator from Scrappy installed this morning and wow what a difference that thing makes, my bike came with 16 Gram Rollers in it and I would turn 7500+/- a little @ 60MPH now with the 13 Gram sliders and the better variator I only hit about 6700 RPM's @ 55MPH and around 7000-7100 @ 60 MPH, I was hoping for better hill climbing power but even though I dropped to the 13 Gram sliders I'm still not getting enough RPM's at around the 55-60 MPH mark I would like to run in on the highway, I wish I would have went with the 11 or 12 Gram sliders now, but I will just have to order another set and do some tuning on it.

Question: Is it normal for the Variator or Centrif. Clutch to not down shift well after it gets good and hot say after a 8-10 mile trip?

I was thinking it was the variator but now I'm thinking it has to be my Centrif. Cltch that is my trouble in this area, new variator made no difference in this area, after a few mile run down the road I can slow down and stop at a stop sign or light and then when I go to take off my bike is very sluggish getting going because it has not returned to the lowest range in the (CVT) gearing, I can tell that I'm taking off in a much higher range than it should be and until I get up too about 20-25 MPH it will not start to pick up speed like it should, It only does this after the engine and drive train is heated up, first thing when all is cool at start of trip it up shifts and down shifts just like it is suppose to, but after heating up the CVT is sticking in a higher range and will not come down when I stop.

Is there anything I may need to remove and clean and lube on the Centrif. Clutch itself?

It seems that this is where the sticking is happening, the motor winds up pretty good taking off but it just barely gets going for about the first 50-60 feet and then it gradually starts picking up some speed after that and then all is fine until I stop again.